Manchester Metrolink: Exit stops

[GandalfsWand]

Hi

I currently have a season ticket from Radcliffe to Central part for £30 a week which i think is the most expensive season ticket available (If i changed it to Rochdale which is a lot more stops its the same price).

In a morning l like to get off in Manchester for a coffee whilst waiting for the next Metro (If the sign says the next met is >10 mins i go to Starbucks). The only issue is Starbucks is at Market street and i can get off at Victoria (when it reopens) or Shudehill.

As Market street is in the same zone as Shudehill and Victoria am i allowed to travel to these stations?

I've read the terms of the season ticket and can see the below which is not exactly clear.

http://www.metrolink.co.uk/using-the-network/Documents/Conditions%20of%20Carriage.pdf

40. For journeys partly but not wholly within the routes shown on the MST, the holder of a
valid MST must pre-purchase a ticket for that part of the journey outside the routes shown
on the MST
41. MST’s cannot be used for journeys wholly outside the routes shown on the MST’s unless
a further ticket has been pre-purchased.
42. For the purpose of Conditions 38-41 above, routes are alphabetically lettered
geographical areas within which valid MST’s may be used.

Is a man allowed his coffee?

 

[Crossover]

If your ticket is to City Zone then you should be fine - Victoria, Shudehill and Market a Street are all in the City Zone

 

[WatcherZero]

The terms seem to suggest unlimited travel between X and Y including partial journeys so long as you don't travel on a different route or beyond the destination zone of your ticket.

 

[185143]

If your ticket is to City Zone then you should be fine - Victoria, Shudehill and Market a Street are all in the City Zone

I think the OPs ticket is to Central parK as he mentions Rochdale?

 

[Starmill]

If you have a Radcliffe - Central Park season, it is valid for unlimited journeys in the City Zone (zone D) because D is between where Radcliffe is (A) and where Central Park is (can't remember, maybe J, although it says it in iKB I think - these zones aren't in the public domain anyway that I know of).

40 and 42 are daft conditions, as you can't use a TVM to remote purchase. Maybe 185 knows - I guess you are supposed to just find and buy an equivalently priced ticket in that case? E.g. You have a Whitefield <> Bury season and want to go from Bury to Besses
o’ th’ Barn. Do you have to get off at Whitefield to wait for the next tram while you buy a ticket?

 

[richardio123]

If your ticket is £30 it is valid at all stops on Metrolink. Similar to a day pass

This is the same as the £100 monthly or £1000 Yearly

If your unsure Tweet @MCRMetrolink tomorrow morning

 

[Starmill]

If your ticket is £30 it is valid at all stops on Metrolink. Similar to a day pass

This is the same as the £100 monthly or £1000 Yearly

If your unsure Tweet @MCRMetrolink tomorrow morning

OOps. I hadn't clocked that the OP's journey is actually jacked up to the maximum. Sorry - I'm afraid your unusual syntax impeded progress a little there!

Yes, what I said before still stands under normal circumstances, but in this case your ticket would be treated like a real Travelcard. It will still have the two named stops on it, but as you correctly identify, Radcliffe to Rochdale - or Radcliffe to Eccles... or Radcliffe to Manchester Airport are all the same price.

If you get your next pass at a PayPoint or a TfGM Travelshop it will be issued between "Whitefield / Radcliffe / Bury - All Metrolink Stops" to alleviate confusion.

 

[Bletchleyite]

E.g. You have a Whitefield <> Bury season and want to go from Bury to Besses
o’ th’ Barn. Do you have to get off at Whitefield to wait for the next tram while you buy a ticket?

Yes. Metrolink has a strict liability rule on tickets, i.e. there are no circumstances under which you may travel without a ticket or other explicit authority to travel obtained before boarding the tram (i.e. a reference number from the help point in the event of all ticket machines being broken at that stop).

Neil

 

[Starmill]

Yes. Metrolink has a strict liability rule on tickets, i.e. there are no circumstances under which you may travel without a ticket or other explicit authority to travel obtained before boarding the tram (i.e. a reference number from the help point in the event of all ticket machines being broken at that stop).

Neil

You would already be in possession of a ticket - and condition 40 suggests that you may pre-purchase one valid in combination with it.

 

[GandalfsWand]

Hi All

Thanks very much for all the very helpful comments.

I think the consensus is having the season ticket i have enables me to go to the stops i need to in a morning but ill double check with @MCRMetrolink on Twitter.
Appreciate the prompt responses.

If you have a Radcliffe - Central Park season, it is valid for unlimited journeys in the City Zone (zone D) because D is between where Radcliffe is (A) and where Central Park is (can't remember, maybe J, although it says it in iKB I think - these zones aren't in the public domain anyway that I know of).

Thanks, i thought that but i ran it by an inspector who made me think not, but i think he may have been confused.

If your ticket is £30 it is valid at all stops on Metrolink. Similar to a day pass

This is the same as the £100 monthly or £1000 Yearly

If your unsure Tweet @MCRMetrolink tomorrow morning

Cheer ill message them on Twitter, thanks

Has the pricing changed recently, i was looking at a longer term season ticket last week and i though i saw £30, £100 and £1100.

I think the OPs ticket is to Central parK as he mentions Rochdale?

yeah it is Central PArk

 

[Bletchleyite]

You would already be in possession of a ticket - and condition 40 suggests that you may pre-purchase one valid in combination with it.

That it does. But pre-purchase is the key. Unlike the big railway, there is no exemption allowing you to just board a tram or travel without a ticket if there was no opportunity to buy, unless you have explicitly asked permission to do so from customer services and have a reference number.

So you could travel on the ticket you had, but if you weren't able to prepurchase the extension ticket you would indeed have to leave the tram once your present ticket ceased to be valid to purchase it.

On Metrolink you must have a valid ticket whenever you are on board a tram, or a reference number from customer services, or you will be penalised if caught. This applies regardless of the circumstances.

Neil

 

[185]

If you get your next pass at a PayPoint or a TfGM Travelshop it will be issued between "Whitefield / Radcliffe / Bury - All Metrolink Stops" to alleviate confusion.

Best advice there. Seen many staff encourage passengers to do just that. I'm under the impression that when the Paypoint tickets were updated, they forgot to delete that one, so keep buying it whilst it's still there.

 

[Starmill]

Best advice there. Seen many staff encourage passengers to do just that. I'm under the impression that when the Paypoint tickets were updated, they forgot to delete that one, so keep buying it whilst it's still there.

Really? Is it not intentional that if you pay the maximum weekly fare, you get unlimited travel?

 

[andyb2706]

Hi

In a morning l like to get off in Manchester for a coffee whilst waiting for the next Metro (If the sign says the next met is >10 mins i go to Starbucks). The only issue is Starbucks is at Market street and i can get off at Victoria (when it reopens) or Shudehill.

Is a man allowed his coffee?

Might have some good news for you. I was at Victoria the other week and every vacant piece of property in the station buildings that they are converting into retail had notices in them stating that there has been a request for an operating licence by Starbucks so I presume they haven't yet decided which property they want so hopefully you won't have to go too far for your coffee.

 

[GandalfsWand]

Might have some good news for you. I was at Victoria the other week and every vacant piece of property in the station buildings that they are converting into retail had notices in them stating that there has been a request for an operating licence by Starbucks so I presume they haven't yet decided which property they want so hopefully you won't have to go too far for your coffee.

Thanks for the info, i went through todays to get my hair cut and didn't even look at the shops so i never saw that.