Manchester - Liverpool Electrification

[Class 170101]

And they could have done with putting on a 319 today.

The 17:13 out of Liverpool Lime Street today is pretty much standing room only.

Wonder if its a Liverpool driver out and back?

 

[Loop & Link]

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[Peter Gl]

I'm getting the train from Eccles to Oxford Road this afternoon, did I read the 319's aren't running weekends yet?

Pete

 

[STANDISH]

No 319's running at weekends according previous messages.

Also noted a 319379 at Stockport carriage sidings yesterday and another 319 in the sidings just to the north of Preston station. I assume these are being used for training.

 

[Peter Gl]

Okey dokey, thanks Standish.

Pete

 

[8A Rail]

No 319's running at weekends according previous messages.
Also noted a 319379 at Stockport carriage sidings yesterday and another 319 in the sidings just to the north of Preston station. I assume these are being used for training.

319366 is at Preston - both unfurbished units and unable to be used on NR passenger trains, hence allocated for "Driver Training".

 

[LDECRexile]

I'm getting the train from Eccles to Oxford Road this afternoon, did I read the 319's aren't running weekends yet?

Pete

It will be some time before they call at Eccles. May is talked of, but few hard facts or firm promises are in the public domain.

 

[Peter Gl]

It will be some time before they call at Eccles. May is talked of, but few hard facts or firm promises are in the public domain.

Just thought it'd be the 319's on the new airport service as I've never caught a train from Eccles to Oxford Rd.

Oh well.

Pete

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Just thought it'd be the 319's on the new airport service as I've never caught a train from Eccles to Oxford Rd.

If they follow the intended weekend timetable, Eccles-Oxford Road should run on Sundays when the Airport service makes more stops.
So whenever they start 319s on Sundays, they should stop at Eccles.
Other days the only service from Eccles runs to Victoria which is not wired yet.

 

[LeylandLen]

Is it possible to know which Liverpool LS - MIA and return workings will be 319s this week ? How many 319 units are in service ? I intend to use 1116 ex LLS one day this week .

 

[martynbristow]

Is it possible to know which Liverpool LS - MIA and return workings will be 319s this week ? How many 319 units are in service ? I intend to use 1116 ex LLS one day this week .

This was posted previously with times from Liverpool

 

[superkev]

If the end to end time could be got down to less than 1 hour Inc turn round 2 rather than the current 3 units I think per route would be required.
k

 

[martynbristow]

If the end to end time could be got down to less than 1 hour Inc turn round 2 rather than the current 3 units I think per route would be required.
k

Agreed but this would require rep through the congested Piccadilly bottleneck

 

[8A Rail]

Is it possible to know which Liverpool LS - MIA and return workings will be 319s this week ? How many 319 units are in service ? I intend to use 1116 ex LLS one day this week .

See post 4241, 11.16hrs is not one of them and there is two units out.

 

[Bevan Price]

I would like to add my thanks to all who have reported on this topic. Went from St. Helens to Preston yesterday (7 March), and there was still a gap in the wiring at Springs Branch, at least on the westbound ( towards Liverpool) line; could not see the wiring on the other side from where I was sitting.

 

[DJH1971]

I would like to add my thanks to all who have reported on this topic. Went from St. Helens to Preston yesterday (7 March), and there was still a gap in the wiring at Springs Branch, at least on the westbound ( towards Liverpool) line; could not see the wiring on the other side from where I was sitting.

That does appear to be one of the sticking points between Huyton to Wigan, along with Carr Mill.

 

[Geeves]

Progress still continues at Victoria. Some more metal work is now ingeniously attached onto the east end footbridge.

 

[AE]

I passed Springs Branch Junction last night (8th March) heading south on the mainline and it looked to me as if the wires over both tracks extended around the curve and onto the mainline.

I'm not completely sure though, as we were going quite fast, it was twilight and I was on the opposite side of the train to the junction.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I passed Springs Branch Junction last night (8th March) heading south on the mainline and it looked to me as if the wires over both tracks extended around the curve and onto the mainline.

I'm not completely sure though, as we were going quite fast, it was twilight and I was on the opposite side of the train to the junction.

Passing through towards Wigan today, there was a full set of wires over Springs Branch Jn, spliced into the WCML wires.
Carr Mill looked ccomplete too.
Couldn't see the Up line.
There was an auto-tensioner without wires at St Helens, otherwise the branch looked finished.
Wires from Ince Moss towards Bamfurlong too.

 

[DJH1971]

Passing through towards Wigan today, there was a full set of wires over Springs Branch Jn, spliced into the WCML wires.
Carr Mill looked ccomplete too.
Couldn't see the Up line.
There was an auto-tensioner without wires at St Helens, otherwise the branch looked finished.
Wires from Ince Moss towards Bamfurlong too.

Surely not too long for Huyton to Wigan now?

 

[LDECRexile]

Passing through towards Wigan today, there was a full set of wires over Springs Branch Jn, spliced into the WCML wires.
Carr Mill looked ccomplete too.
Couldn't see the Up line.
There was an auto-tensioner without wires at St Helens, otherwise the branch looked finished.
Wires from Ince Moss towards Bamfurlong too.

Paul and I visited the Haresfinch area of St Helens, Carr Mill Viaduct and Springs Branch Junction today, by car and on foot.

We agree that to us landlubbers it looks done and dusted.

Decided against mudwallowing to Bamfurlong Sidings Junction to see if the southeastern end of the Ince Moss Chord is wired up to the WCML, as it was chucking it down.

Photos later.

Welcome back LNW-GW Joint.

Dave and Paul

 

[johnmoly]

Apart from four sets of 319's outside Allerton this morning all in Northern colours, with one set ready for the road for driver training (no seats fitted ) noticed they have finished extending the 'siding' that runs up towards Hunts X adjoining the Merseyrail line, complete with OHLE as well.

 

[DJH1971]

Apart from four sets of 319's outside Allerton this morning all in Northern colours, with one set ready for the road for driver training (no seats fitted ) noticed they have finished extending the 'siding' that runs up towards Hunts X adjoining the Merseyrail line, complete with OHLE as well.

That's interesting to know

 

[LDECRexile]

Apart from four sets of 319's outside Allerton this morning all in Northern colours, with one set ready for the road for driver training (no seats fitted ) noticed they have finished extending the 'siding' that runs up towards Hunts X adjoining the Merseyrail line, complete with OHLE as well.

Thanks for this, and welcome to this thread.

I think (usual caveats) that the siding is a headshunt, where headshunt is to siding as turning circle is to parking slot.

 

[LDECRexile]

Have added seven photos from today's sodden trip and updated the Progressometer as below.

As always, the Combined Volume is here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/sets/72157648494725811/

Dave

 

[Billyblue]

I notice from this morning's schedules that the 7.35am MIA - Lime Street service is listed as 'cancelled- train fault.'

 

[Loop & Link]

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[johnmoly]

Thanks for this, and welcome to this thread.

I think (usual caveats) that the siding is a headshunt, where headshunt is to siding as turning circle is to parking slot.

I thought on later it was called a headshunt, but at the time of writing couldn't recall the right term. Thanks. Also noticed they are in the process of removing the electric third rail on this headshunt.

 

[Viscount702]

I thought on later it was called a headshunt, but at the time of writing couldn't recall the right term. Thanks. Also noticed they are in the process of removing the electric third rail on this headshunt.

I thought there is a least one spare unit at present which could have been used to replace the failed unit.

 

[Loop & Link]

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