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Manchester Collyhurst st to Scunthorpe

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New paths have appeared mon-fri for a 2200 t out/600 t return flow.This runs from Collyhurst St.(Miles Platting) ..presumably on the former Oldham Rd branch...to Scunthorpe Roxby Gullet.Looks to be another "binliner" but have been passed recently and haven't noticed any sign of loading facilities..?
 
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If it is where I am thinking there used to be freight trains there when I was younger but ceased quite a few years ago now. Good to see that it is back in use!
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Reports in the press this week that GMWDA have terminated waste disposal contract with Viridor...does this mean that existing "Binliners" from Brindle Heath/Dean Lane/Bredbury/Northenden will cease...all these workings are to the Runcorn Viridor plant?Is the new working from Collyhurst St to Scunthorpe to replace the above..?
 

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Reports in the press this week that GMWDA have terminated waste disposal contract with Viridor...does this mean that existing "Binliners" from Brindle Heath/Dean Lane/Bredbury/Northenden will cease...all these workings are to the Runcorn Viridor plant?Is the new working from Collyhurst St to Scunthorpe to replace the above..?

How will this affect the viability of the existing waste compaction product plants at those depots you mention above. Was it not the raison d'etre that fully treated waste would be removed by the waste container unit trains in order that all external shipments would not need "x" amount of container lorries instead of what could be moved by one trainload of these loaded containers.
 

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Reports in the press this week that GMWDA have terminated waste disposal contract with Viridor...does this mean that existing "Binliners" from Brindle Heath/Dean Lane/Bredbury/Northenden will cease...all these workings are to the Runcorn Viridor plant?Is the new working from Collyhurst St to Scunthorpe to replace the above..?

If true, what it does mean is that the Viridor Runcorn plant, built on the understanding it would be rail served, will now have no rail input and will be entirely road.

Manchester will still have a need to dispose of its rubbish and perhaps will send everything to Scunthorpe.
 

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Trains will still run for some time, speaking to some local politicians it may take up to 3 years still to end the contract.

That's good news. 3 years is a long time and a lot can happen in the meantime.
 

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How will this affect the viability of the existing waste compaction product plants at those depots you mention above. Was it not the raison d'etre that fully treated waste would be removed by the waste container unit trains in order that all external shipments would not need "x" amount of container lorries instead of what could be moved by one trainload of these loaded containers.

The waste compaction stations in Greater Manchester are still owned by the various councils so although Viridor might have their name on a sign at the front they don't own the assets or at least not the buildings.

Maybe GM are looking to save costs and run them directly? It isn't Greater Manchester's issue to worry about an expensive plant in Runcorn.

As far as I knew I thought that the site at Scuthorpe had been filled and the site was being put back to "Nature" and tracks had been lifted??

Also Collyhurst St was a stone terminal and I wouldn't feel very confident about running a train there now. Its a 40 drop to nothing over battered and smashed concrete!
 
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Also Collyhurst St was a stone terminal and I wouldn't feel very confident about running a train there now. Its a 40 drop to nothing over battered and smashed concrete!

Google maps shows quite a long siding with hard standing alongside.

Given a reach stacker nothing else is needed if the containers are filled elsewhere.
 
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Went past on the train today...there seems to be some site works ongoing adjacent to the stone terminal.The other possibility would be to develop the yard used to store cable etc.at the end of the existing sidings.The current waste terminals at eg .Dean Lane maybe tied up in the mysteries of the PFI contract which the GMWDA is terminating??The North West waste disposal trains seem to be beset by problems with the Knowsley to Wilton binliner currently stood down .
 
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Been past twice this week on separate days and on both occasions 09009 was parked up .
The working from here...now Collyhurst st GBRF ...is up and running regularly ..but what is it..??
Looks like 09009 has been brought in from Trafford Park GBRF to assist ..not sure why....?
 

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Been past twice this week on separate days and on both occasions 09009 was parked up .
The working from here...now Collyhurst st GBRF ...is up and running regularly ..but what is it..??
spoil to Roxby Gullet (Scunthorpe).


Looks like 09009 has been brought in from Trafford Park GBRF to assist ..not sure why....?
No run round facility available, so trains have had to be 'top and tailed' until this week,
tying up a valuable class 66/7.



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The waste compaction stations in Greater Manchester are still owned by the various councils so although Viridor might have their name on a sign at the front they don't own the assets or at least not the buildings.

Maybe GM are looking to save costs and run them directly? It isn't Greater Manchester's issue to worry about an expensive plant in Runcorn.

As far as I knew I thought that the site at Scuthorpe had been filled and the site was being put back to "Nature" and tracks had been lifted??

Also Collyhurst St was a stone terminal and I wouldn't feel very confident about running a train there now. Its a 40 drop to nothing over battered and smashed concrete!

These trains from Collyhurst St (a new to rail flow & not part of the main GMWDA contract)are running for Biffa not Viridor, so I would say it's stuff that can't be recycled or sent to Runcorn to be incinerated.
 

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Spotted the 09 today from oldham road, has anyone got any pics of the trains on the site? I remember the site as the tilcon cement works with daily double headed 37s with ICI hoppers from peak Forrest.
 
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