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Man hit by train near Bradford

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Kris

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Depends on how you handle such things. One driver went through a tunnel about 20 years ago with a 47 and ....... BANG, BANG, BANG.....BANG. ......4 or 5 army cadets.

They had tried to take a short cut on an exercise map reading or something

Driver just said something like "stupid *&^%(*&'s - shouldn't have been there".

Can anybody remember where it was? I think it was on the Redhill line somewhere or in that region.
 

Coxster

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I know a few soldiers were killed in Clayton tunnel (Brighton Mainline) when on a map reading exercise. Their maps meant for them to go over the tunnel but they went through it. Not sure when that was though Kris.
 

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If it's clearly a suicide or tresspass, then the police have very little to do, other than helping with the clear-up and of cource that lovely job of informing the family. If foul play is suspected though things are very different, and natually the area becomes a crime scene and efforts have to be taken to preserve evidance. Whilst in that sort of case, the inconvienience and cost is a pain, it's important to think what it would be like if it was your loved one who had been killed say by being pushed infront of a train, and the murderer couldn't be brought to justice because vital evidance was lost in the rush to get the line re-opened. Thankfully that's rare though, and most fatalities are clear cut suicides or misadventure. Of cource though, with any death, it has to be treated as suspect until proven otherwise, and rightfully so. I doubt passengers would be held on board by the police for an off train fatality though (if the fatality involved a train passenger it's a different matter), but oviously if the train itself is detained between stations, getting passengers off isn't easy. It's even worse than a breakdown, since consideration has to be taken both of preserving evidance, and making sure passengers being detrained don't see anything nasty (e.g you can't just walk them back to the previous station where the body is still scattered around the tracks).
 
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I'm treading the fine line between what I can legally tell you and what I can't, i've been told what the driver saw and it's very hard to decide who's guilty... all I can say is the police treated it as a murder enquiry and as such, my friend couldn't re-open the line until the next day...that was a very interesting read Chris, thanks.
 

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Seems to depend which police you get as to how well you get treated.

I had both the Met and BTP turn up to mine and both were brilliant. To be fair the Met disappeared pretty quick after the BTP took over, but I'll never forget the concerned Met WPC who consoled me.

On the other hand, I've heard of a driver who was met by the civil police (don't know which force) because the nearest BTP officers were some miles away. They had no idea how to deal with a rail fatality and tried to treat it like a road traffic accident, with the result that they were threatening to arrest the train driver because he was refusing to give a specimen of breath. (Train drivers are not required to be medscreened for fatalities.)

However, Chris is entirely correct. If the Police deem the locus to be a scene of crime, things will take as long as they need to allow them to gather evidence.

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