Major delays in the Peterborough area 07/12

[gavin]

Major delays north of Peterborough due to a train hitting an object on the line which has caused a fuel leak the affected train appears to be 0948 London Kings Cross - Hull

Additional information:

Onboard train crew have advised that the obstruction has caused a fuel leak which has dispersed onto the track. Passengers remain on board and are safe and secure.

 

[gavin]

Kings X Thunderbird now at Peterborough

 

[bonzawe]

Kings X Thunderbird now at Peterborough

I thnik the 1Z99 at Peterborough is formed from 1D71 grand central to Bradford, will be a compatible class 180

 

[Marton]

On 1130 from KX. 30 late approaching stoke tunnel.

Slow line from Peterborough to Tallington. Seems that up fast is also closed as all trains passing have been on up slow.

Overtook the strikes Hull Trains unit just south off Helpston (?). Very strong smell of diesel got into this train. It must be awful on the affected unit. . .

 

[SPADTrap]

Four of the five tanks ruptured!

 

[TheEdge]

Four of the five tanks ruptured!

That's one of those "will probably never happen" sort of incident that causes merry hell when it does!

 

[gavin]

All lines bar up slow 2 towards London are blocked again

 

[SPADTrap]

That's one of those "will probably never happen" sort of incident that causes merry hell when it does!

Yeah it really is! Yet another lucky escape in many ways too.

 

[Stampy]

Just got home from work, and got stuck at Helpston crossing due to the delays...

As others have posted, there was a Hull Train stuck there, and all Northbound trains were approaching on the Down Slow / Stamford Line.

Would have stopped to take a photo, but was "ushered" on by other car drivers!!!

 

[gavin]

Are passengers still stuck on the affected train or have they detrained them onto another train?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

They also had some issue at Stevenage at around 13.00 and at the same time the 13.00 from King's Cross failed on departure and eventually everyone turfed off at 13.40

 

[Art1983]

Reading stories on twitter from a passenger they are still on board and the fuel is still leaking they have been stuck for 4 hours.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Looking at OTT there's a 1Z13 in the area, is that anything to do with this incident?

 

[gavin]

They also had some issue at Stevenage at around 13.00 and at the same time the 13.00 from King's Cross failed on departure and eventually everyone turfed off at 13.40

Issue with the breaks presumably sent back to Bounds Green

 

[gavin]

Looking at OTT there's a 1Z13 in the area, is that anything to do with this incident?

It's a Short Term Planning for VTEC due to the Inverness to London service having to terminate at Edinburgh becuasue of the high winds

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Just had a quick look on Google Maps:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d52.6508833!4d-0.3610417

Where's the general area of the incident in relation to them lakes and the canal? If it's in that area then could there be some environmental concerns as to where the leaked diesel has gone/is going?

 

[xotGD]

I have just passed the scene - pair of 180s multied up, folk still atuck on board!

60009 was delayed by over an hour at Peterborough on kettlex to York - at least it game folks plenty of time to get a phot.

I'm behind 90029 on the Newark, btw.

 

[gavin]

Just had a quick look on Google Maps:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/52°39'03.2"N+0°21'39.8"W/@52.6508865,-0.3632304,586m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d52.6508833!4d-0.3610417

Where's the general area of the incident in relation to them lakes and the canal? If it's in that area then could there be some environmental concerns as to where the leaked diesel has gone/is going?

Serivces are diverting via the slow lines north then coming back on so it is a bit further south from where you map is

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d52.6338508!4d-0.3244144

 

[robbeech]

Rather unpleasant for passengers. We often see failed trains and a delay of a couple of hours and people often moan about the wait and sadly it is understandable why things might take a couple of hours to get them off the train. But 4 hours is venturing in the realms of unacceptable, especially in poor conditions.
It’s good to know things are safe as things like that can go quite wrong, the fumes will be really quite awful on board but the fire risk is much lower than a lot of people will be thinking.

In other news. I’m placing a bet that that train doesn’t go back into service until June yet they’ll only cancel services last minute on a day to day basis.

 

[gavin]

Full block in place again going south 1 northbound line remains open

 

[gavin]

Looks like they have finally got the HT set back to P'boro

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Can a 180 limp along on a single engine (to the nearest suitable location eg station to evac passengers)?

 

[TMLB UK]

Only 2 cars have compressors but even if it was a compressor car your need 2 cars minimum.

 

[Stampy]

2 trains sat in the area 5H04 & 5H02 - according to RealTime Trains as at 1745

 

[TMLB UK]

Yeah affected train hasn’t moved by the looks of it, got a possession now on the up fast.

Driver is earning their salary today.

 

[greyman42]

Does anyone know what the object was that the train hit ?

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Up Fast shown on OTT as being blocked around there

 

[Stampy]

The object it must have hit must have been around Werrington Junction area, just North of PBO for the train to have stopped at Helpston.

Might have been something thrown off one of the Green or White bridges in the area - for those that are local - as the 1st level crossing you get to North of Peterborough is at Woodcroft, just south of Helpston.

And IF it was on the main line south of Werrington Jct, then it would have probably been spotted by a driver of a passing Spalding or Lincoln service...??

Just a thought - as that Green Bridge is notorious for "incidents"

 

[SpacePhoenix]

With the object having ruptured 3 fuel tanks, has it also done major damage to some of the other underfloor equipment?

 

[Noddy]

According to Hull Trains (via the BBC) it was a catastrophic engine failure.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-42273167

Dozens of passengers were aboard the 09:48 service, with Hull Trains blaming a "catastrophic engine failure".

Engineers initially thought the train had struck something, but it later emerged it had suffered engine problems.

A Hull Trains spokesperson said: "We have now been able to move passengers on to another train which will take them to Peterborough and on to their destinations."