Maintenance

[plastictaffy]

Saw a failed class 92 on the Dollands Moor water train being dragged by a 66 the other day. Now obviously, both locomotives are owned by DBS. Who maintains them??

The Dyson is an ex BR loco, whereas the 66, as everyone knows, is an American piece of junk built by GM, so are they maintained by the same people?

In some cases, it's pretty obvious - for example, LM's 321's and 350's being Siemens. But who would look after their other traction, such as 323's, 170's, 172's??

Sorry if it's the sort of question a simpleton would ask, but knowing that the failed Dyson caused a lot of delay minutes that DBS will be liable for, it set me thinking about it.

 

[ADRboy]

Saw a failed class 92 on the Dollands Moor water train being dragged by a 66 the other day. Now obviously, both locomotives are owned by DBS. Who maintains them??

The Dyson is an ex BR loco, whereas the 66, as everyone knows, is an American piece of junk built by GM, so are they maintained by the same people?

In some cases, it's pretty obvious - for example, LM's 321's and 350's being Siemens. But who would look after their other traction, such as 323's, 170's, 172's??

Sorry if it's the sort of question a simpleton would ask, but knowing that the failed Dyson caused a lot of delay minutes that DBS will be liable for, it set me thinking about it.

DBS maintain their own stock do they not?

321's are ex-BR, not Siemens.

 

[swt_passenger]

321's are ex-BR, not Siemens.

Nevertheless, since closure of Bletchley they are maintained at Kings Heath depot by people employed by Siemens...

 

[D365]

In some cases, it's pretty obvious - for example, LM's 321's and 350's being Siemens. But who would look after their other traction, such as 323's, 170's, 172's?

London Midland's 26 Class 323s are based at Soho Depot, with the majority (I think) of their DMUs maintained at Tyseley TMD.

 

[CosherB]

Saw a failed class 92 on the Dollands Moor water train being dragged by a 66 the other day. Now obviously, both locomotives are owned by DBS. Who maintains them??

The Dyson is an ex BR loco, whereas the 66, as everyone knows, is an American piece of junk built by GM, so are they maintained by the same people?

So that'll be almost 500 examples of junk in the UK, with the likes of GBRf pulling all sorts of stunts to circumvent regulations (legally) to obtain as many new 66's as possible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toton_TMD

 

[alexl92]

So that'll be almost 500 examples of junk in the UK, with the likes of GBRf pulling all sorts of stunts to circumvent regulations (legally) to obtain as many new 66's as possible?

Arguably they're pulling these stunts because there's little alternative choice in the way of new freight traction? Not saying I agree with the 'junk' comment, just saying!

 

[Jamesb1974]

DBS maintain their own stock.

Arguably they're pulling these stunts because there's little alternative choice in the way of new freight traction? Not saying I agree with the 'junk' comment, just saying!

There are alternatives, as DRS are showing. Whether they prove to be a true alternative to a '66' or not remains to be seen. The point of the '66' is that they cheap, simple and reliable. They look crap and, trust me are even worse when you are driving one but they are robust and keep going. The very reason that they are as popular with FOCs as they are.

 

[trac]

How are the Super-60's shaping up as an alternative to the 66's ? Do the S-60's demand more maintenance ?

 

[ilkestonian]

How are the Super-60's shaping up as an alternative to the 66's ? Do the S-60's demand more maintenance ?

Didn't the regular 60s demand more maintenance that they received?

Surely that's why most of them are rotting at Toton with legs out of bed?

 

[plastictaffy]

321's are ex-BR, not Siemens.

Yes, I know. I sign them, so I should hope I do realise this!!! What I meant was, they are maintained by Siemens.

So all the units that are maintained at the likes of Soho will be looked after by LM's own fitters and technicians?
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Almost every driver I have ever spoken to that has signed them tells me they are absolute junk. However, as previously started, they are reliable. And, as was stated, are there any decent like-for-like replacements??