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justinsteam

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Is it me or is Luton's road signage inadequate?

This morning I travelled from Dunstable, which is west of Luton to the Hitchin road on the north east side Luton, most of the road signs that I saw were directing traffic to the M1, the A6 to Bedford or the town centre, but I saw virtually no signage for other directions, which resulted in me getting slightly lost.
 
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Luton is atrocious for signposting, Dunstable is much better. MK is just as bad I find for the same reason (directing traffic to the quickest ways out) but is much easier to navigate and get to where you are going due to its uniform and unimaginative design.
 

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Yes Chester is the worse place for road signs since new signs were put up in 2008 on the inner ringroad, it just says through traffic.
Chester is also the worse signposted city, despite being signposted from the M6, you dont see any signs to Chester from Shrwesbury or Oswestry, yet these places are signposted from Chester.

Flint aswell seems to avoid Chster signs
 

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My lasting memory of signage in Luton was at junction 11 (I think) of the M1, as you head to Luton from there on the A505, there was a sign that said Luton 3 miles and almost immediately another sign saying "Welcome to Luton". All of which is made worse by the fact that you are in Luton before you get to the motorway junction!
 

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No it doesn't. It sounds like what it is, another bloody American made up computer word. Final destination, alighting the train, sourcing the stock. What's wrong with English?

Words evolve over periods of time, it's just what happens. The age suffix derives from french actually - as in courage and voyage, where it's pronouced with a soft 'g'.

What's wrong with the alighting? It's better than "exit the train" as used by London Underground.
 

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What's wrong with the alighting? It's better than "exit the train" as used by London Underground.

I agree. Makes us sound less like cattle, all squashed up in a tiny carriage.

Wait a second.............
 

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Luton is atrocious for signposting, Dunstable is much better. MK is just as bad I find for the same reason (directing traffic to the quickest ways out) but is much easier to navigate and get to where you are going due to its uniform and unimaginative design.

That's probably why we have less traffic jams than any other 'town'.
 
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Words evolve over periods of time, it's just what happens. The age suffix derives from french actually - as in courage and voyage, where it's pronouced with a soft 'g'.

What's wrong with the alighting? It's better than "exit the train" as used by London Underground.

If English was taught properly in schools you'd know that you can't alight a train. You alight from a train. You don't exit a train. You make an exit from a train. You don;t trial something. You give it a trial or put it on trial.
I blame computers and English teachers who don't know the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives.
 

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If English was taught properly in schools you'd know that you can't alight a train. You alight from a train. You don't exit a train. You make an exit from a train. You don;t trial something. You give it a trial or put it on trial.
I blame computers and English teachers who don't know the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives.

Don't shake your walking stick too hard, you may put it through the monitor.
 

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If English was taught properly in schools you'd know that you can't alight a train. You alight from a train. You don't exit a train. You make an exit from a train. You don;t trial something. You give it a trial or put it on trial.
I blame computers and English teachers who don't know the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives.

Sadly I agree. The speediness of modern life has meant that such teachings have become all too redundant.
 

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Don't shake your walking stick too hard, you may put it through the monitor.

I have to say I chuckled! :lol:

Nonetheless, I do think Mr Barlow has a point. The number of teenagers leaving school who write in text speech and fail to grasp basic mathematics has risen over the years. Hopefully, Michael Gove's proposed policy to keep sixteen year olds studying GCSE Maths and English until they attain a C Grade (or better) should help to tackle this widespread problem.
 

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The only signs I want in Luton are ones showing me the quickest way out of the place.
 

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If English was taught properly in schools you'd know that you can't alight a train. You alight from a train. You don't exit a train. You make an exit from a train. You don;t trial something. You give it a trial or put it on trial.
I blame computers and English teachers who don't know the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives.

What an abrupt lecture! I was referring to the use of "alighting" rather than "exiting" or "getting off".

I know you can't "alight a train" but you can say "alight here for" or "when alighting from". Stylistically, it sounds so much better than "exit here for".

Plus, you've picked the wrong person to rant at - I strongly dislike incorrect language. I have an A* grade in English Language at GCSE and a grade A in English Language at AS-Level. I know all about verbs, nouns, adjectives, adverbs, modal verbs, interrogatives, imperatives, conjunctions and more - do I need to go on?

If something like that rattles you, then you're going to get very aggravated with "txtspeak".

I find many people speak poorly in spontaneous speech, ignoring grammatical conventions. It's common throughout all the generations and it's exacerbated by dialects - but you can't ban them can you?

Language does also change; look how the English Language has evolved from Shakespearean times. In places, it's almost incomprehensible to users of modern English.

The evolution of language is a continual and unavoidable process and often it has very little relevancy to what is being taught in schools. It's down to cultural influences and big firms, an example of this is the verb "to google" - "I googled it" is now a valid construction. It's present in the Oxford English Dictionary and has also entered other languages.
 
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I have to say I chuckled! :lol:

Nonetheless, I do think Mr Barlow has a point. The number of teenagers leaving school who write in text speech and fail to grasp basic mathematics has risen over the years. Hopefully, Michael Gove's proposed policy to keep sixteen year olds studying GCSE Maths and English until they attain a C Grade (or better) should help to tackle this widespread problem.
This isn't anything to do with leaving school not being able to write English. This is a purely semantic argument from someone in rose-tinted glasses who can't see that language evolves. If it didn't, we'd all still be speaking in grunts.
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If English was taught properly in schools you'd know that you can't alight a train. You alight from a train. You don't exit a train. You make an exit from a train. You don;t trial something. You give it a trial or put it on trial.
I blame computers and English teachers who don't know the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives.

Yes, like remembering the difference between an apostrophe and a semi-colon?
 
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