Lumo borrowing a Hull trains unit for a service (25/08/23)

[800001]

Looking at the RTT allocations for tomorrow only 803002, 803004 and 803005 are doing the runs so no IETs

Ah, thank you.

 

[JonathanH]

0623 from Edinburgh and 1218 from Kings Cross cancelled due to only having three units available.

 

[Clarence Yard]

I’ve heard very strong rumours that Lumo are attempting to borrow a GWR 5 car IET for service Friday 1st Sept, just wondering if anyone can shed any light on if it’s true or not?

Highly unlikely as it would be contractually impossible for them to do so. Those units are only contracted for use on GWR and it isn’t in GWR’s gift to loan them out to other operators.

 

[800001]

Highly unlikely as it would be contractually impossible for them to do so. Those units are only contracted for use on GWR and it isn’t in GWR’s gift to loan them out to other operators.

The 802s are owned by First Group are they not?

And from the conversations I heard, the unit was allocated, and was all driver dependant on moving the unit from North Pole to Ferme Park/Kings Cross.

 

[JonathanH]

The 802s are owned by First Group are they not?

Eversholt Rail Leasing own the GWR 802s
https://eversholtrail.co.uk/fleet/class-802/

CLASS 802
The class 802 fleet is leased to Great Western Railway.

They are part of the AT300 fleet built by Hitachi in their Pistoia factory in Italy.

They have been designed to meet the operational requirements of the West of England route and are used on services out of London Paddington to Plymouth and Penzance.

Angel Trains own the Hull Trains and TPE 802s.
https://angeltrains.co.uk/fleet/class-802/

Class Technical Detail
TYPE
High Speed: Bi-Mode (25kV AC Overhead Line & Diesel)

CLASS
802

MANUFACTURER
Hitachi

MODEL
AT300 A-Train

 

[dk1]

0623 from Edinburgh and 1218 from Kings Cross cancelled due to only having three units available.

And all other services are fully booked and expected to be crowded. No acceptance with LNER due to the same with their very limited service operating.

 

[Clarence Yard]

The 802s are owned by First Group are they not?

And from the conversations I heard, the unit was allocated, and was all driver dependant on moving the unit from North Pole to Ferme Park/Kings Cross.

They are on a train supply agreement with Hitachi, specifying only GWR use. If an OA operator wants to hire a unit off a DfT operator, the DfT have to give permission, which is usually not granted.

Given that GWR are short of units at the moment, I would be amazed if the permissions were sought, let alone given.