From what I've heard the reason it hasn't been recovered yet is that due to the severity of the wheelflats it cannot be skated back to West Ruislip and has to be retrieved by road , although I'm not sure on the truthfullness of this as I've never heard of a piece of rolling stock not being able to be skated before due to damage.
I suspect there are discussions going on about liability with H&H (and potentially their insurers too) which may be taking some time.
Ripple Lane Exchange Sidings, number 1 road
Thanks, is it visible from the line down to Barking Riverside?
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Allegedly it was moved with the handbrake on, so particularly severe flats developed.
The arguments over this ( insurers always quibble don't they?! ) are probably part of the reasons it's taking so long.
It was on its way to Barking for the BLS tour to Heysham etc. last autumn when the incident happened.The TC4 and Sarah Siddens are the LT museum heritage train.
They were recently overhauled at Eastleigh from
The TC4 was used on some galas and the Great Gathering at Derby, so strange the wheels were damaged? Presumably on the return from Derby by H&H?LU Sarah Siddons loco and 4TC heritage unit
From a previous thread a post from bluegoblin7 "I think “planned” was somewhat optimistic wording - “hoped” would be more appropriate. That hope is still there, but Sarah needs to undergo shakedown runs on the Met , which have yet to happen. It is worth noting that no finalised timetable for...
Hopefully the insurance will pay for repairs?
The TC4 and Sarah Siddens are the LT museum heritage train.
They were recently overhauled at Eastleigh from
The TC4 was used on some galas and the Great Gathering at Derby, so strange the wheels were damaged? Presumably on the return from Derby by H&H?LU Sarah Siddons loco and 4TC heritage unit
From a previous thread a post from bluegoblin7 "I think “planned” was somewhat optimistic wording - “hoped” would be more appropriate. That hope is still there, but Sarah needs to undergo shakedown runs on the Met , which have yet to happen. It is worth noting that no finalised timetable for...
Hopefully the insurance will pay for repairs?
The TC4 and Sarah Siddens are the LT museum heritage train.
They were recently overhauled at Eastleigh from
Presumably on the return from Derby by H&H?LU Sarah Siddons loco and 4TC heritage unit
From a previous thread a post from bluegoblin7 "I think “planned” was somewhat optimistic wording - “hoped” would be more appropriate. That hope is still there, but Sarah needs to undergo shakedown runs on the Met , which have yet to happen. It is worth noting that no finalised timetable for...
The damage occurred between Wembley and Barking. A handbrake was left on, there's no allegedly about it (appreciate you didn't say this bit, just for general context.)
The earnings are relatively marginal once the wider costs of owning and maintaining it - LU's own trips just about break even and the wider business case for heritage operations is - sadly - tricky to justify.
Whilst I won't comment on the specifics, it is worth mentioning that the heritage fleet is looked after by the same team who look after the Rail Adhesion Trains. October through December is their busiest time of year (understandably), and January into February is also when many of them are taking accrued leave. This is the biggest factor in the set's extended stay.
Thank you for mentioning this part, I had a feeling that was the case but didn’t want to add it in case I was wrong. As it usually doesn’t have much in the way of “booked work” shall we say until the late spring and summer months, I can imagine there’s less of a rush to bring it back yet with the priority being the LU RATS first. Just hope it’s safe and sound out in Ripple Lane as we know how some of the London yards can be.
I doubt there is any actual profit in these activities - there cetrainly is no profit in attending galas, only costs !
Many thanks for the update, that's good news. Hope it's not too expensive, well the road bit obviously will and wheelsets don't come cheap. It's a quality bit of rolling stock.
Thanks as well for the update. Would it appear as a last min move as it’s only going just down the road?
Hopefully not Hanson and Hall again
Hopefully not Hanson and Hall again
Very good news, it'll be nice to have it back
The unit was brought to make a heritage train on the Metropolitan line, so maroon is suitable.
That’s would be amazing to see 2 TC sets together! Such amazing work by the people restoring the Swanage set!
The TC's have B5(S) bogies which have different wheelsets than B4 bogies found under Mark 1's so not interchangeable.
Fully get all that - just a personal preference for me. Never liked it in teak or LT maroon. I think it looks daft, IMO. A prototypical refresh livery wise would still draw in the crowds perhaps more so given how long it’s had its current guise for
Hyperbole alert!!! "Draw in the crowds"... really? Perhaps a few photographers. Photographers who contribute zero in the way of revenue - so not exactly an enticing business proposition!
