Loop and siding between Gospel Oak and Upper Holloway

[dmncf]

I noticed there is a loop and a (rather short) siding between Gospel Oak Station and Upper Holloway Station, near Royal Mail's North London Delivery Centre, Units 11-13, Bush Industrial Estate, Station Road, London, N19 5UN.

Were the loop and siding built for loading and unloading freight? Are they still used for anything? Thanks.

 

[PreciousPasta]

There used to be a goods yard on that site, which appears on old (1950s) maps of London. I think the loop itself is too short for most of the goods trains that use the line, but there are a few goods trains that are scheduled to use it.It's also used by a couple of Overground ECS moves each day in the early morning and late at night. This link to Realtime trains shows the trains scheduled to use the loop next Tuesday, which seems to be the most exciting day of the week for it:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...18/06/26/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

 

[33056]

There used to be an oil terminal at Upper Holloway, served from Ripple Lane, but that was on the opposite side of the line next to the bus garage. The train used to run round in the loop you mention before shunting to the sidings, I think it might have done this twice though my memory it a bit hazy as it was around 30 years ago now.

Maybe the short siding next to the loop was once part of a goods yard?

 

[XDM]

There used to be an oil terminal at Upper Holloway, served from Ripple Lane, but that was on the opposite side of the line next to the bus garage. The train used to run round in the loop you mention before shunting to the sidings, I think it might have done this twice though my memory it a bit hazy as it was around 30 years ago now.

Maybe the short siding next to the loop was once part of a goods yard?

To get to its depot the last Barking to Gospel Oak train has to leave the Gospel bay platform ECS & run east to the loop dmncf mentions. The driver changes ends in the loop then moves off back towards Gospel Oak, but instead of going into the gospel bay platform he goes westbound to low level Willesden Junction bay. He changes ends again & then into Willesden Depot, where he gets his car & goes home. The unit gets fuelled etc & does the reverse in the early morning. Courtesy of a driver friend of mine.

 

[rebmcr]

To get to its depot the last Barking to Gospel Oak train has to leave the Gospel bay platform ECS & run east to the loop dmncf mentions.

Does it do this wrong-road, or by reversing in Upper Holloway P2?

 

[XDM]

No it runs right road to the loop. Like a normal service train from the gospel oak bay but instead of going into upper Holloway station it is signalled into the loop which means crossing the other line. Hope this makes sense & also that I have relaid my friend’s dinfo correctly.

 

[rebmcr]

No it runs right road to the loop. Like a normal service train from the gospel oak bay but instead of going into upper Holloway station it is signalled into the loop which means crossing the other line. Hope this makes sense & also that I have relaid my friend’s dinfo correctly.

According to carto.metro there is no facing crossover for trains running right-road from Gospel Oak P3 into the siding.

 

[87015]

According to carto.metro there is no facing crossover for trains running right-road from Gospel Oak P3 into the siding.

Correct all run via station as per schedules listed above. No evening LTP trains booked through loop so not sure what he’s on about! They can also turn at the dodd just outside Gospel Oak but running via Upper Holloway seems to be preferred. The quoted last service stables at Gospel Oak too unser

 

[XDM]

I am sorry. I apologise for getting it wrong. My driver friend says he was talking about years agowhen he drove for the franchise before London Midland. He assumed it is the same now. I won’t buy him a drink! Could the movement He/I described have happened then?