Longest ECS movements.

[Tomnick]

Quite right C link and spare link sign that whole route but no Nottingham driver signs Beighton - Doncaster - Lincoln. Common sense wouldve seen them Learn Beighton - Lincoln via Worksop and Retford. Using the bubblecar. That wouldve shortened the ecs and given access to Worksop during the blockade. possibly allowing the worksop units to be operated and serviced at Lincoln

I'm not sure what's happening on the Robin Hood line during the blockade, but if there was any opportunity to run a service of sorts, units would be able to run via Pinxton to get onto and off the line each day. I believe at least part of the route between Sheffield and Worksop is closed on nights, so there's the cost of extended opening hours there to possibly consider too (the Melton line is already open on Mon - Fri nights), and also the fact that many of the ECS moves only run as far as Grantham or Sleaford - reducing the mileage difference between the two routes.

 

[edwin_m]

I would have thought they could run between Bulwell and Worksop and offer connections to the tram. Maybe the problem is that with Nottingham depot moreorless cut off all the 158s woud have to go to Derby instead, and Etches Park may not have capacity to stable/service the whole fleet.

 

[tnxrail]

Hope this has not been posted and fits in, But i have seen twice now and ECS movement by Greater Anglia from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Norwich via Nuneaton changing line's there ran as 5Z56 on 26/06/2013.

 

[met331]

From what i was told Network Rail have declined the paths required to operate the Robin Hood line coupled with Etches Park stabling and pathing problems into and out of Derby at night and in the morning create headaches.
upgrading is taking place on the robin hood line during the blockade. Newstead has already been relaid but hasnt been tamped yet making it like rolling ona rough sea

 

[1e10]

What is an ECS movement?

 

[ainsworth74]

What is an ECS movement?

Empty Coaching Stock - Which is basically a train without passengers that's either on it's way to form a service or coming back to the depot at the end of the day.

 

[matt]

What is an ECS movement?

Empty Coaching Stock

 

[1e10]

Empty Coaching Stock - Which is basically a train without passengers that's either on it's way to form a service or coming back to the depot at the end of the day.

Is theree anyway to find a list of ther type of movements or is it purely a discovery thing?

 

[sonic2009]

Is theree anyway to find a list of ther type of movements or is it purely a discovery thing?

Do you mean finding timings for ECS services?

 

[Tomnick]

Anything shown on RTT as a class 5 or, in most cases, class 3 (non-ECS 3s will mostly be filtered out). Try doing a line-up for the whole day at various depots or major stations and you should find plenty of ECS moves at either end of the service.

 

[The Planner]

Most cases? I don't think I have ever seen an ECS class 3, only ever seen those on test trains or RHTTs.

 

[Boothby97]

Most ECS moves operate as Class 5. Class 3 is for RHTT, test trains, engineers trains and "priority ECS moves" (important ECS moves for rush hour trains in cities)
Thanks, Sam

 

[Tomnick]

Most cases? I don't think I have ever seen an ECS class 3, only ever seen those on test trains or RHTTs.

Sorry, didn't make myself very clear. Most class 3 trains visible on RTT and similar sites will be ECS (the others - RHTT, test trains etc. - won't show as such due to the filtering). I'll happily agree that the vast majority of ECS trains run as 5, but there are a fair few 3s about.

 

[1e10]

Being a newbie here, could someone please explain to what a class is? I'm assuming it is some sort of priority system for trains but would appreciate some clarification.

 

[transportphoto]

Being a newbie here, could someone please explain to what a class is? I'm assuming it is some sort of priority system for trains but would appreciate some clarification.

Here we are, from Wikipedia, however I believe it to be entirely correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_reporting_number#Train_classes

For operational reasons, certain trains have priority in running. To help operating staff, they are grouped into classes:[2]
Express passenger train; nominated postal or parcels train; breakdown or overhead line equipment train going to clear the line or returning from there (headcode 1Z99); traction unit going to assist a failed train (1Z99); snowplough going to clear the line (1Z99)
Ordinary passenger train; breakdown or overhead line equipment train not going to clear the line (2Z99); Officers’ special train (2Z01)
Freight train which can run at more than 75 mph; parcels train; autumn-railhead treatment train; empty coaching stock train if specially authorised
Freight train which can run up to 75 mph
Empty coaching stock train
Freight train which can run up to 60 mph
Freight train which can run up to 45 mph
Freight train which can run at, or is timed to run at, 35 mph or less
Class 373 train
Light locomotive or locomotives
Since 2010, Class 9 has included London Overground passenger services on the East London Line, to avoid confusion with the large number of Southern and South Eastern services.[citation needed] In 2006, some long distance Virgin Cross Country services were allocated 9xxx headcodes to help signallers identify a long-distance inter-regional express passenger service from a local Class 1 express service. This was to help the Virgin Cross Country get higher priority. This agreement ended when the franchise changed to Arriva CrossCountry, and have now reverted to their former Class 1 designation.
The classes' definitions have changed several times since being introduced: Class 3 was formerly used for parcels trains and empty passenger trains, and Class 9 for freight trains without fitted brakes.

TP

 

[Tomnick]

Just added a few useful bits to the above .

1: Express passenger train; nominated postal or parcels train; breakdown or overhead line equipment train going to clear the line or returning from there (headcode 1Z99); traction unit going to assist a failed train (1Z99); snowplough going to clear the line (1Z99)
2: Ordinary passenger train; breakdown or overhead line equipment train not going to clear the line (2Z99); Officers’ special train (2Z01)
3: Freight train which can run at more than 75 mph; parcels train; autumn-railhead treatment train; empty coaching stock train if specially authorised
4: Freight train which can run up to 75 mph
5: Empty coaching stock train
6: Freight train which can run up to 60 mph
7: Freight train which can run up to 45 mph
8: Freight train which can run at, or is timed to run at, 35 mph or less
9: Class 373 train [or other passenger train if specially authorised - AM10/25]
0: Light locomotive or locomotives

 

[RolandR]

I think that this will be one of the longest, which I spotted last weekend and is due again tomorrow morning.
I assume it's an East Coast HST that starts at Ferme Park then stops at Kings Cross, nothing special there. It then goes to Heaton in Newcastle, that must be a nearly 300 mile trip.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H15090/2013/06/29/advanced

 

[Boothby97]

I think that this will be one of the longest, which I spotted last weekend and is due again tomorrow morning.
I assume it's an East Coast HST that starts at Ferme Park then stops at Kings Cross, nothing special there. It then goes to Heaton in Newcastle, that must be a nearly 300 mile trip.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H15090/2013/06/29/advanced

I think this might be Network Rails New Measurement Train

 

[The Planner]

We have started using Class 9 a bit more now, I'm fairly sure some Virgins are 9 in the Dec 13 timetable.