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Longest distance rail replacement bus services.

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What is the longest distance rail replacement bus that you have seen? I would be curious to hear of any examples that anyone has seen?

Normally when lines are closed they split up the buses and you have to change. I know one time the East Coastway line was closed for engineering work they had separate Three Bridges to Lewes and Lewes to Eastbourne and Eastbourne to Hastings buses. So often the rail replacement buses do not run that far.

Last year i remember seeing a rail replacement bus from Brighton to London St Pancras when the last train of the day was cancelled. I have no idea why it went all the way to London St Pancras when Three Bridges and Gatwick Airport have overnight services.

The longest i have ever had was a Portsmouth Harbour to Brighton bus. That was about eight years ago during the DOO dispute when they had severe staff shortages. The last four trains of the day were cancelled so they put on just one bus to replace a bunch of cancelled trains.

It called at every single minor station and even diverted to serve Bognor Regis and Littlehampton and Arundel for some reason (Portsmouth Harbour, Portsmouth And Southsea, Fratton, Hilsea, Bedhampton, Havant, Warblington, Emsworth, Southbourne, Nutbourne, Bosham, Fishbourne, Chichester, Bognor Regis, Barnham, Ford, Littlehampton, Arundel, Angmering, Goring By Sea, Durrington On Sea, West Worthing, Worthing, East Worthing, Lancing, Shoreham By Sea, Southwick, Fishersgate, Portslade, Aldrington, Hove, Brighton) making it extremely long. The bus had to do long diversion down minor roads in order to serve each station.

It ended up taking just over four hours. I think it was about four hours and thirty minutes total. To make it worse i had to stand for the entire journey. It was an Enviro 200 bus and was absolutely crammed with people standing all down the aisle for the entire journey. By the time we got to Brighton it was so late that all of the Northbound trains had long gone so they booked me a taxi home and it took an hour for that taxi to turn up. I got home about 06:00 in the morning instead of about 00:00 so over six hours late.

I would be interested to hear what the furthest distance rail replacement bus you have seen is? I presume there must be some long distance ones covering the last train of the day being cancelled rather than engineering work?
 
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I do remember reading about a substitute bus service between Carlisle and Glasgow when the West Coast mainline was closed.
 

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Throughout June there was rail replacement buses from Inverness to Wick throughout.
 

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Pwllheli to Machynlleth and I think Newcastle to Edinburgh (definitely Newcastle to Berwick) as two more examples.
 

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does it win by distance? By rail it's 57 1/2 miles. Probably wins by duration though!
It might be further than Pompey to Brighton, but I can't imagine it took anywhere near 4 1/2 hrs!

One of my biggest gripes about being put on a bus when I had a train ticket was that the duration and nausea-inducing characteristics of a bus journey calling at all intermediate stations was absolutely intolerable to me, I used to bale out when we reached an easy straight road nearing home and beg to be collected.
To my mind it should be mandatory that 2 RRBs are provided, 1 to run direct to a couple of principal stations and the other to call at all the gateposts en route!
 

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It might be further than Pompey to Brighton, but I can't imagine it took anywhere near 4 1/2 hrs!

To my mind it should be mandatory that 2 RRBs are provided, 1 to run direct to a couple of principal stations and the other to call at all the gateposts en route!
Looking at Charlwood House, that has been the case for the Cambrian Coast in the past, e.g. with Machynlleth on 9 December last year having two bus departures to Pwllheli at 08:52. One had eleven intermediate stops arriving at 12:03; the other had 24 arriving at 12:19 (still 'only' 3:27 of travel time).
 

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There has been a number of Manchester to London emergency rail replacements within the last year due to the last train being cancelled with no train crew.
 

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There has been a number of Manchester to London emergency rail replacements within the last year due to the last train being cancelled with no train crew.
Longest distance maybe, but they shouldn't take 4 1/2 hrs!
 

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Longest distance maybe, but they shouldn't take 4 1/2 hrs!
The ones which had the stops on will have done, the last time they had 2 which ran express and one doing similar stops to the service train.
 

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The ones which had the stops on will have done, the last time they had 2 which ran express and one doing similar stops to the service train.
Hooray! I'm glad they did that, I wish it was the norm, especially on E Midlands trains!
 

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Brussels to Waterloo, many years ago, when the last Eurostar of the day was cancelled (I forget why, now). Technically, of course, part of the journey was a rail replacement boat.
 

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4.25 hours on a bus anyone???
I’ve done Thurso to Inverness in a people carrier on one occasion. Flooding on several sections of the line & no 158’s at the northern end being the reason.

Also managed Llandrindod Wells-Shrewsbury on a minibus after the 153 from Swansea was turned & sent back south. Thankfully, that one missed some of the smaller stations, but still took a fair while!
 

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London to Glasgow when the sleeper was cancelled.
When was this?

Most times I see the sleeper cancelled they just let people sleep on the train at its origin station then carry on their journey on daytime services the next day.

Or do you mean engineering works where part of the route is cancelled?
 

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My longest journey on a rail replacement bus was in September 2006 when returning from Nottingham to Cardiff. It ran between Birmingham New Street and Newport, and the one I was on called only at Gloucester. Departed Birmingham at 1400.

I can't remember what the bus company was but it didn't help that the driver had never been to Gloucester before so a passenger had to direct him to the station there. He then had to have a break, so we were 10 minutes later than scheduled departure time leaving there. The driver was then unwilling to go down the M5 and over the bridge as he said he wasn’t confident of having the toll refunded to him. So we went down through Lydney and Chepstow. We got on the M4 and reached Newport which was another place the driver hadn’t been to before, so when we neared the town centre I had to direct him to the station. Arrived at 1645 - 25 minutes late.
 
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When was this?

Most times I see the sleeper cancelled they just let people sleep on the train at its origin station then carry on their journey on daytime services the next day.

Or do you mean engineering works where part of the route is cancelled?

Thinking back, it was supplementary on a night that the sleeper ran 8v16.
 

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Swindon to Fishguard Harbour when there was a fatality at BPW and there were a few railsail passengers on board a few years ago. Ran non-stop except for a stop at Magor services so people could have a wee/McDonalds. Got to the boat with 5 mins to spare but Stena Line were made aware and held the boat.
 

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Haven't Caledonian Sleeper organised last minute replacements to/from London a few times? That's got to be the longest
 

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Northampton to Euston or vice versa at stupid o'clock via all stations - wont be the longest but wont be fun! Example from Sunday gone:

 

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Haven't Caledonian Sleeper organised last minute replacements to/from London a few times? That's got to be the longest
Have they? I tried to find an example of this but couldn't find one.

CS do sometimes do shorter rail replacement bus services though, e.g. they did Kingussie to Fort William last year during engineering works between Glasgow and Crianlarich. This was pre-planned mind.

I can't imagine it would be easy getting a last minute coach organised from London to Scotland, even just the central belt. They'd need a couple of drivers and possibly an overnighter.
 

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I can't imagine it would be easy getting a last minute coach organised from London to Scotland, even just the central belt. They'd need a couple of drivers and possibly an overnighter.
From what I heard, on one occasion the driver appeared not to know the destination until the coach arrived at the station...
 

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From what I heard, on one occasion the driver appeared not to know the destination until the coach arrived at the station...
Well that's one way to do it!

I had a taxi from Carlisle to Inverkeithing provided by Avanti once. The look on the cabbie's face when he found out he was going to Fife and back at something like 10pm at night was not pretty. On the plus side he did, ahem, 'put his foot down', and we got there quite quickly..
 

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I've seen Glasgow to Inverness before.

Certainly won't win on distance, but when the last Manchester-Liverpool trains (either route) are bus replacements, the journey times are not pretty!

As an aside, longest taxi run people have had/know of? I know a forum member who had one from Edinburgh to West Yorkshire some years ago. And I've organised taxis between the North West and London/Scotland on multiple occasions at work.
 

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Would there have been any particularly long ones when the sea wall at Dawlish collapsed, or 'just' Exeter to Plymouth or shorter?
 

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As an aside, longest taxi run people have had/know of? I know a forum member who had one from Edinburgh to West Yorkshire some years ago. And I've organised taxis between the North West and London/Scotland on multiple occasions at work.
I was once offered one from Doncaster to Pokesdown... I declined and got a hotel, which fortunately TPE paid back doubtlessly saving a lot of money in comparison
 
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