London to York "stoppers" 17/06/24.

[greyman42]

A number of the London - York and York - London services have been cancelled today, does anyone know why?

 

[43094]

1402 ex York: Unit failure at York.

1506 ex Kings Cross & 1802 ex York: indirectly as a result of the above.

 

[greyman42]

1402 ex York: Unit failure at York.

1506 ex Kings Cross & 1802 ex York: indirectly as a result of the above.

How did the failure of the 1402 at York cause the cancellation of the 1506?

 

[class444 fan]

How did the failure of the 1402 at York cause the cancellation of the 1506?

its probblay the same diagram is opearted by the same unit its how the railway works there might not have been a spare unit

 

[greyman42]

its probblay the same diagram is opearted by the same unit its how the railway works there might not have been a spare unit

The 1402 from York would not arrive in London till about 1625 so how does it cause the cancellation of the 1506 ex Kings Cross?

 

[DanNCL]

its probblay the same diagram is opearted by the same unit its how the railway works there might not have been a spare unit

1402 from York doesn’t get to Kings Cross in time to work the 1506. The two services would have passed between Huntingdon and St Neots.

Cancellation of the 1506 will be as a result of stock (and possibly crew) swaps that followed the failure of the 1402, made to keep the rest of that diagram running. The 1402 should have got to Kings Cross just in time to work a peak hour northbound so keeping that running if possible is important. Preferable to cancel the 1506 than a peak working.

The 1802 from York is the return working of the 1506 from Kings Cross.

 

[greyman42]

1402 from York doesn’t get to Kings Cross in time to work the 1506. The two services would have passed between Huntingdon and St Neots.

Cancellation of the 1506 will be as a result of stock (and possibly crew) swaps that followed the failure of the 1402, made to keep the rest of that diagram running. The 1402 should have got to Kings Cross just in time to work a peak hour northbound so keeping that running if possible is important. Preferable to cancel the 1506 than a peak working.

The 1802 from York is the return working of the 1506 from Kings Cross.

Cancellation of the 1506 will be as a result of stock (and possibly crew) swaps that followed the failure of the 1402, made to keep the rest of that diagram running. The 1402 should have got to Kings Cross just in time to work a peak hour northbound so keeping that running if possible is important. Preferable to cancel the 1506 than a peak working.

Thanks, that makes sense.

 

[43094]

Yes, that’s what happened - it protected 1700 KGX - EDB (the back working of the 1402, for which there wouldn’t have otherwise been a set available).

There were also some crewing constraints as a result of this (which is why I said ‘indirectly’) but I can’t really go into too many details about those on an open forum.