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London Overground Stratford to Chesunt

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leytongabriel

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With the Lea Bridge to Meridian Water third track siding up the Lee Valley line now in operation is there any further scope for service improvements with the current infrastructure? There's been a huge amount invested in the four stations but the service feels like a botched job at the moment. Lea Bridge has trains on 5 different calling patterns northbound, you can only be sure you'll get to Tottenham Hale - not great for an urban station. And the much vaunted four trains an hour Stratford - Toteenham Hale disappears in the rush hour, when most needed. Meridian Water only has the shuttle trains at the weekends ( apart from the odd few on a Sat) which is when most people go to a certain Swedish furniture superstore just by the station beginning with I .

Anyway I was wondering could two extra pathways - Meridian Water to Cheshunt be created if these trains took the Northmuberland Park to Enfield Lock stops off Bishops Stortford / Hertford trains and they were speeded up appropiately. It would also be an oportunity to get rid of the current infuriating Enfield Lock or Waltham Cross skip -stop arrangement . You'd then have a proper regular inner suburban service which could more easily be taken over by Tfl at some point.

PS I know I've spelled 'Cheshunt' wrongly in the title byt can't see how to edit it!
 
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Bald Rick

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With the existing infrastructure, there’s two broad choices for the Lea Valley corridor from Tottenham to Broxbourne:

1) stop trains at more stations, and slow everything down (including the Stansted Express and Cambridge flyers)

2) speed up services by cutting out stops.


Without more infrastructure (lots) there is no scope to speed trains up or provide more services without affecting the other side of the equation.
 

MrPIC

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When the third hertford comes in you'll be able to get to Tottenham Hale easily and get a train to Enfield Lock or Waltham Cross within 20 minutes no doubt. As above, theres not the paths for much additional stuff on the Lea valley, not to mention no access to the Bay Platform at Cheshunt from the Valley anymore.
 

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Arguably the best thing to do, I would hope, would be to have trains going along the Bi-Di line from Lea Bridge to Meridian Water in the 'down' direction and then departing from Meridian Water after a Stansted Express (so when there's a slot behind those as Stoppers follow them up from Broxbourne) using a new crossover onto the Up Main. That way you could reliably achieve a quarter-hourly Stratford to Meridian Water.

After Elizabeth Line opens, you could potentially seek to knock a few main line trains over the crossover off-peak at Bow, enabling that Meridian Water service through to Liverpool Street on the Up/Down Temple Mills lines. A 'quick win' perhaps?
 

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Arguably the best thing to do, I would hope, would be to have trains going along the Bi-Di line from Lea Bridge to Meridian Water in the 'down' direction and then departing from Meridian Water after a Stansted Express (so when there's a slot behind those as Stoppers follow them up from Broxbourne) using a new crossover onto the Up Main. That way you could reliably achieve a quarter-hourly Stratford to Meridian Water.

After Elizabeth Line opens, you could potentially seek to knock a few main line trains over the crossover off-peak at Bow, enabling that Meridian Water service through to Liverpool Street on the Up/Down Temple Mills lines. A 'quick win' perhaps?

No chance x 2!
 
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