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RogerLH-SW4

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I have to travel from London to Durham on Friday 20 September, arriving late afternoon, early evening, leaving to return to London on the afternoon of Sunday 22 September.

I live in SW London but assume I will be travelling from Kings Cross. I have a senior railcard.

Can any members please advise on the most economical way to do this, particularly regarding the benefits of advanced purchase?

Roger

PS I tried to get to the RailUK Fares and Ticketing guide as advised but appear not to be allowed to see it - not sure why.:cry:
 
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daniel78

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I have to travel from London to Durham on Friday 20 September, arriving late afternoon, early evening, leaving to return to London on the afternoon of Sunday 22 September.

I live in SW London but assume I will be travelling from Kings Cross. I have a senior railcard.

Can any members please advise on the most economical way to do this, particularly regarding the benefits of advanced purchase?

Roger

PS I tried to get to the RailUK Fares and Ticketing guide as advised but appear not to be allowed to see it - not sure why.:cry:

The best place to search for tickets is www.eastcoast.co.uk They are the train company for London - Durham.

Outbound it looks like the best fare you will get now is £31.

Tickets aren't on sale for the return date yet. The good news is that you have the opportunity to snap up the cheapest fare when they do, the bad news is this means the engineering works schedule is unconfirmed, so worst case there could be replacement buses on part of the journey. I don't know any specific details in this case.

It looks like there is a super off-peak return for about £80, which seems to be valid all day for your required dates. If you can't do much better than the £31 on the return leg it's worth considering for the extra flexibility.

As far as your journey from home to Kings Cross goes, you may be able to get this included in your fare. I regularly travel from North London to use East Coast from Kings Cross, and sometimes the fare is the same with the local journey included. Just use a little trial and error in your searching trying 'London' and your local station as the end point.
 

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Buying 'Advance' tickets will be the cheapest way to do this journey - these are the tickets that restrict you to one train, but are much cheaper.

If you are able to travel in the morning, you can currently do the journey more cheaply: there are currently fares of £24.60 on the 09:30, 10:30 and 11:30 trains to Durham, and £18.45 on the 08:30. Otherwise, the above quote of about £31 is the best for travel in the afternoon. As the number of tickets at each price brand is limited, it is likely that they will at some point sell out. The tickets for the return leg are likely to be a similar price, when they become available. Tickets are usually released once a week, on a Friday. You can buy the outward and return journeys separately if you want, so could get the outward ticket now.

The £80 Super Off-Peak Return is valid after 09:30 on the Friday and all day Sunday - it would give you more flexibility. You can still book seats with it, but you aren't tied to having to use that train.

As daniel78 says, depending on your local station, you may be better buying a through ticket - which station would you be travelling from?

As a final note: if you're really needing to save, you can sometimes shave off a few pounds by 'splitting' your journey at Newark. For example, an Advance fare on the 14:08 London-Newark is currently £6.65, getting in at 15:34. You can then pick up the 15:43 from Newark-Durham for £18.45. Again, these are Advance tickets so they may sell out and relative price savings against a through ticket vary during the day. Similar savings can sometimes be made by splitting at Doncaster. If you're interested in doing this, it's worth playing around with the journey planner. As long as you leave the Minimum Connection Time (5 minutes at Newark, 7 minutes at Doncaster) between your train arriving and the next one leaving, then your tickets are still valid in the event of delays.
 

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If the OP only needs flexibility in the return direction, he or she could buy an Advance single (or combination of Advance singles) for the outward leg and a EC web-only half-price Super Off-Peak Single for the return leg (must be purchased at least a day in advance from the East Coast website; does not permit BoJ). Using a £31 advance single for the outward leg and the £39.95 flexible single for the return leg would come to £70.95.

If the OP needs flexibility for both legs, there is a 'loophole' combination available for £77.30, although it would require a thorough understanding of the Routeing Guide and an ability to argue one's case if challenged, and in any case the train must stop at York and Darlington in both directions (although virtually all trains stopping at Durham would also stop at York and Darlington).

Using two Super Off-Peak Singles would save sixty pence on a Super Off-Peak Return (£79.90 v £80.50), although the tickets would each need to be purchased for the correct day and would be subject to the restrictions mentioned above.
 
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