London Bridge Closure - Croydon to Elephant & Castle

[dewsnapsliding]

I have cause to travel from Croydon to Elephant & Castle [EPH] once per week, needing to arrive at EPH for around 18.00.

Can someone advise why the 17.17 departure from East Croydon is the only one all day which doesn't stop at Elephant?
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.u..._260814_to_290814_northbound_no_headcodes.pdf

I cannot catch the West Croydon 17.25 London Bridge service (truncated at South Bermondsey this week) and change at Streatham for the service from Sutton as I miss the connection by 2 minutes.

While London Bridge is closed it would appear my only chance to leave work not too early, is the 17.28 to Balham and Northern Line. Something which I read all operators are actively trying to discourage. Not much choice though from my point of view.

My question is, is this week's timetable likely to be the timetable from December onwards. If so, the 17.17 non-stopping at Elephant is very irritating!

 

[greatkingrat]

I suspect it is a 12 car train which is too long for the platforms at Elephant & Castle.

 

[dewsnapsliding]

I suspect it is a 12 car train which is too long for the platforms at Elephant & Castle.

Is it likely that it is the only 12-car working all day?

Surely there would be an equal movement in the morning peak?

 

[greatkingrat]

There are - the 0756, 0832 and 0844 from Blackfriars all run fast to East Croydon.

 

[dewsnapsliding]

Ah, thanks - I was looking for the up services in the morning not stopping.

 

[tsr]

This has caught more than a few people out, I can tell you. Luckily, the next train for Northbound passengers in the evening has never really been too far behind. It's a pity there's (supposedly) no feasible way to implement SDO for this train, so that it can call.

 

[W230]

I have cause to travel from Croydon to Elephant & Castle [EPH] once per week, needing to arrive at EPH for around 18.00.

Can someone advise why the 17.17 departure from East Croydon is the only one all day which doesn't stop at Elephant?
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.u..._260814_to_290814_northbound_no_headcodes.pdf

It might be that this service hasn't been altered by the blockade. A lot of services in the peak go via Tulse Hill/Crystal Palace anyway with some stopping at Elephant but some not. I'm wondering if this is usually one that doesn't so they've just decided there is no need to change it?

The fact it is 12 car is irrelevant. The 377s will only open the front 8 doors at Elephant even if stopping in a 12 car (I know this because I've done it - wasn't sure whether I could trust it but it worked as it should!)

 

[dewsnapsliding]

It might be that this service hasn't been altered by the blockade. A lot of services in the peak go via Tulse Hill/Crystal Palace anyway with some stopping at Elephant but some not. I'm wondering if this is usually one that doesn't so they've just decided there is no need to change it?

The fact it is 12 car is irrelevant. The 377s will only open the front 8 doors at Elephant even if stopping in a 12 car (I know this because I've done it - wasn't sure whether I could trust it but it worked as it should!)

I have to say that it simply struck me as a control issue at first for whatever reason not wanting evening peak trains to fill up at E&C rather than an SDO issue.

Whatever the reason it's bl**dy annoying!

 

[Class377/5]

Could be a pathing issue up ahead means it hasn't got the time to stop.