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D7666

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I was in process of working this out.

This is /my guess/ based on what they have always done before => middle of day berthing at Camden combined with RTT having the correct 100 mph 321 timing load not 110 mph 350; yes I know RTT timing load is not a diagram however 3 years of precedence is LNW 319s are correctly differentiated in RTT.

What is typed below is based on day time to and from Camden; do not assume from this list any connection between a.m. Camden arrivals and p.m. Camden departures; I have not included early morning and late evening ECS from other locations; nor have I looked at weekends or "outside the box".

So it is a guess - I think a good one - allow for typos etc, so constructive feedback appreciated.

Anybody needing and wishing to do Northampton should do so before the timetable change based on this, if it is correct.

TR UK mag just out has an article on LMW fleet plans and 8car 319s are slated for early replacement by 6car 730s; my guess is the apparent increased in 319s mileage compared with past couple of years is in readyness to better utilise 730s when available.

SX a.m.

2B06 06:56 Bletchley Euston 07:57
5C06 08:18 Euston Camden 08:25

2B02 06:04 Bletchley Euston 07:07
2T09 07:24 Euston Tring 08:01
2T10 08:10 Tring Euston 08:52
5C10 09:05 Euston Camden 09:12

2K02 06:29 MiltonKeynes Euston 07:37
2T13 07:54 Euston Tring 08:31
2T14 08:40 Tring Euston 09:22
5C14 09:33 Euston Camden 09:40

2T02 07:10 Tring Euston 07:52
2T15 08:04 Euston Tring 08:44
2T16 08:51 Tring Euston 09:31
5C16 09:50 Euston Camden 09:57

SX p.m.

5T49 15:34 Camden Euston 15:41
2T49 15:54 Euston Tring 16:33
2T50 16:41 Tring Euston 17:22
2B49 17:35 Euston Bletchley 18:35

5T53 16:06 Camden Euston 16:15
2T53 16:24 Euston Tring 17:06
2T54 17:13 Tring Euston 17:52
2K51 18:09 Euston MiltonKeynes 19:19
2K52 19:27 MiltonKeynes Euston 20:37
2B61 20:54 Euston Bletchley 21:50

5K45 16:15 Camden Euston 16:22
2K45 16:39 Euston MiltonKeynes 17:47
2K46 17:57 MiltonKeynes Euston 19:03
2T69 19:24 Euston Tring 20:04
2T70 20:15 Tring Euston 20:52
2K63 21:06 Euston MiltonKeynes 22:14

5T57 16:30 Camden Euston 16:38
2T57 16:54 Euston Tring 17:36
2T58 17:45 Tring Euston 18:22
2K53 18:39 Euston MiltonKeynes 19:47
2K54 19:59 MiltonKeynes Euston 21:07
2K65 21:24 Euston MiltonKeynes 22:27

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update

While I based that lot on past 3 years precedecne and experience it seems that other have other opinions and stated the workings from 12/22 are one 8car and one 12car. So who knows.
 
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XCTurbostar

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I was in process of working this out.

This is /my guess/ based on what they have always done before => middle of day berthing at Camden combined with RTT having the correct 100 mph 321 timing load not 110 mph 350; yes I know RTT timing load is not a diagram however 3 years of precedence is LNW 319s are correctly differentiated in RTT.

What is typed below is based on day time to and from Camden; do not assume from this list any connection between a.m. Camden arrivals and p.m. Camden departures; I have not included early morning and late evening ECS from other locations; nor have I looked at weekends or "outside the box".

So it is a guess - I think a good one - allow for typos etc, so constructive feedback appreciated.

Anybody needing and wishing to do Northampton should do so before the timetable change based on this, if it is correct.

TR UK mag just out has an article on LMW fleet plans and 8car 319s are slated for early replacement by 6car 730s; my guess is the apparent increased in 319s mileage compared with past couple of years is in readyness to better utilise 730s when available.

SX a.m.

2B06 06:56 Bletchley Euston 07:57
5C06 08:18 Euston Camden 08:25

2B02 06:04 Bletchley Euston 07:07
2T09 07:24 Euston Tring 08:01
2T10 08:10 Tring Euston 08:52
5C10 09:05 Euston Camden 09:12

2K02 06:29 MiltonKeynes Euston 07:37
2T13 07:54 Euston Tring 08:31
2T14 08:40 Tring Euston 09:22
5C14 09:33 Euston Camden 09:40

2T02 07:10 Tring Euston 07:52
2T15 08:04 Euston Tring 08:44
2T16 08:51 Tring Euston 09:31
5C16 09:50 Euston Camden 09:57

SX p.m.

5T49 15:34 Camden Euston 15:41
2T49 15:54 Euston Tring 16:33
2T50 16:41 Tring Euston 17:22
2B49 17:35 Euston Bletchley 18:35

5T53 16:06 Camden Euston 16:15
2T53 16:24 Euston Tring 17:06
2T54 17:13 Tring Euston 17:52
2K51 18:09 Euston MiltonKeynes 19:19
2K52 19:27 MiltonKeynes Euston 20:37
2B61 20:54 Euston Bletchley 21:50

5K45 16:15 Camden Euston 16:22
2K45 16:39 Euston MiltonKeynes 17:47
2K46 17:57 MiltonKeynes Euston 19:03
2T69 19:24 Euston Tring 20:04
2T70 20:15 Tring Euston 20:52
2K63 21:06 Euston MiltonKeynes 22:14

5T57 16:30 Camden Euston 16:38
2T57 16:54 Euston Tring 17:36
2T58 17:45 Tring Euston 18:22
2K53 18:39 Euston MiltonKeynes 19:47
2K54 19:59 MiltonKeynes Euston 21:07
2K65 21:24 Euston MiltonKeynes 22:27

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update

While I based that lot on past 3 years precedecne and experience it seems that other have other opinions and stated the workings from 12/22 are one 8car and one 12car. So who knows.
This is almost certainly right since Camden always has four sets of 2x319s during the day.

Does anyone know how long these 319s have left?
 

D7666

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This is almost certainly right since Camden always has four sets of 2x319s during the day.

Does anyone know how long these 319s have left?
The diagrams are here :



and my guesstimated effort wrong :(

although working from Camden CS was still the right idea
 

Ibex

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Looks like some LNR 319s were brought out to work two additional services from Rugby today although I can't find any photos. 2Z12 and 2Z14 although 2Z14 was cancelled due to operators request (perhaps due to the fatality on the Coventry to New Street route?).

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They must have been for the football. Also were there mot wcml problems yesterday afternoon?
There were two issues yesterday, around midday there was unfotunately a one under at Marston Green, then later on there was a points failure around Northampton.
 
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