Livery variations & full fleet details - East Midlands Trains

[222001]

saw it at Nottingham and there were 2 grey doors still, one even still had the MML '1' sticker to show first class - then again, they have a load of spare meridian doors at Etches Park (if you look carefully you can see the stand full of them on the way towards Long Eaton!) that are still grey; so they could be defective and replaced. For your information, it was the first class coaches

Thanks for that info. I thought they would have painted the spare doors while they were at it. We could have Meridians running around with grey doors for years! I've also noticed 222008 at the first class end has a wrong colour bit just under the coupler! It's been like this for a while. (see here - http://andrew-chambers.fotopic.net/p54367250.html

 

[class 313]

Thanks for that info. I thought they would have painted the spare doors while they were at it. We could have Meridians running around with grey doors for years! I've also noticed 222008 at the first class end has a wrong colour bit just under the coupler! It's been like this for a while. (see here - http://andrew-chambers.fotopic.net/p54367250.html

Also the coupler not working, a common fault with the class!

 

[222001]

Also the coupler not working, a common fault with the class!

I just don't think they can be bothered to fix them somtimes. 222001's coupler has been broken for months and months. I suppose the 7 cars don't have to couple in normal day to day running but it would help to be fixed if it broke down.

 

[P156KWJ]

Half the time they just have the yellow bag over the coupler and 'Non-Multi' sign in thwe window

 

[P156KWJ]

it is assumed that the 2 SWT 158s have returned to Salisbury (or wherever they came from) as I haven't seen them in over a fortnight. Removed.

 

[222001]

it is assumed that the 2 SWT 158s have returned to Salisbury (or wherever they came from) as I haven't seen them in over a fortnight. Removed.

I'm very sure I seen one in Derby on Tuesday.

 

[P156KWJ]

sure it wasn't 158783 on ECS? Cos the train which passes the house when I go out to school in the mornings 99% of the time was a SWT unit, now it's usually a TPE unit

 

[222001]

sure it wasn't 158783 on ECS? Cos the train which passes the house when I go out to school in the mornings 99% of the time was a SWT unit, now it's usually a TPE unit

I'm not sure. I just looked on fotopic and this picture of 158881 was added today, doesn't say when it was took though - http://oakwood-shed.fotopic.net/p54919209.html.

And this picture of 158882 was taken on the 11th November - http://tims-train-photos.fotopic.net/p54904409.html.

So it looks like they're still here. Glad they are, if they went EMT would really be in trouble. I don't know how they are going to cope come December.

 

[P156KWJ]

hmm, I'll add them again :roll:

 

[222001]

Does anybody know how many HST sets EMT has? I know they have 25 power cars but how many complete sets can be made with the MK3 stock they have?

 

[P156KWJ]

11 sets IIRC, I know they have a set out of service, I can't remember if they have 10 in service but 11 leased, or 11 in service and 12 on lease... they are numbered NL01-11/12

 

[PaintYourWagon]

This listing is from thejunction.org.uk, dataed 16th June, 2008 - showing 11 sets (#9 missing, #5 dated 15 April).

NL01 41057 41084 40746 42335 42111 42112 42125 44041 16.06.08
NL02 41112 41067 40754 42194 42229 42227 42225 44027 16.06.08
NL03 41061 41068 40729 42337 42119 42120 42113 44054 16.06.08
NL04 41077 41064 40749 42151 42164 42165 42153 44047 16.06.08
NL05 41062 41154 40741 42327 42123 42205 42136 44073 15.04.08
NL06 41156 41041 40730 42331 42131 42132 42133 44046 16.06.08
NL07 41111 41070 40751 42339 42135 42136 42137 44044 16.06.08
NL08 41063 41072 40728 42329 42139 42140 42141 44048 16.06.08
NL10 41075 41076 40756 42328 42341 42324 42149 44085 16.06.08
NL11 41117 41078 41046 40753 42220 42152 42230 44051 16.06.08
NL12 41079 41069 40700 42155 42156 42124 42100 44070 16.06.08

NL18 6392 6397 6398 6399 (spares) 18.01.08

Bolded cars noted in EM livery

 

[PaintYourWagon]

Noted on railwayscene.co.uk, 43050 in EM livery.

 

[222001]

Noted on railwayscene.co.uk, 43050 in EM livery.

Yes it is. I seen it today.

 

[Aureol]

Miles and 222001, I can also confirm the ongoing presence of the 2 SWT 158s, as I saw them both at Derby on Saturday. Was pleasantly surprised, as I too had assumed they'd gone back home

 

[class 313]

This listing is from thejunction.org.uk, dataed 16th June, 2008 - showing 11 sets (#9 missing, #5 dated 15 April).

NL01 41057 41084 40746 42335 42111 42112 42125 44041 16.06.08
NL02 41112 41067 40754 42194 42229 42227 42225 44027 16.06.08
NL03 41061 41068 40729 42337 42119 42120 42113 44054 16.06.08
NL04 41077 41064 40749 42151 42164 42165 42153 44047 16.06.08
NL05 41062 41154 40741 42327 42123 42205 42136 44073 15.04.08
NL06 41156 41041 40730 42331 42131 42132 42133 44046 16.06.08
NL07 41111 41070 40751 42339 42135 42136 42137 44044 16.06.08
NL08 41063 41072 40728 42329 42139 42140 42141 44048 16.06.08
NL10 41075 41076 40756 42328 42341 42324 42149 44085 16.06.08
NL11 41117 41078 41046 40753 42220 42152 42230 44051 16.06.08
NL12 41079 41069 40700 42155 42156 42124 42100 44070 16.06.08

NL18 6392 6397 6398 6399 (spares) 18.01.08

Bolded cars noted in EM livery

Only 6 Mk3s in EMT livery? I think not.

 

[P156KWJ]

I assumed it was NL08? That's the set in the list at the front... oh well

 

[222001]

So EMT have 11 sets? Or does NL09 exist but its just missing of the list?

 

[P156KWJ]

NL09 is missing - maybe it's one of the sets that went to XC?

 

[222001]

NL09 is missing - maybe it's one of the sets that went to XC?

Could be. 11 sets would be quite tight for EMT though. They require 9 sets in services for HST booked services. One HST is usually used in place of a Meridian and if one set is out of service from some reason that requires 100% of the fleet to be used with no spare.

 

[PaintYourWagon]

I added set NL08 to my original list as being in EMT livery - apologies for not checking the front page. The other noted cars came from another source.

 

[P156KWJ]

158873 was out of service (but running thank god!) on Etches Park today. My guess is that now the meridians have been finished, the remaining mixed bag of 153s will slowly pass through the paint shed, and the 158s are slowly being refurbed, which will only leave the class 43s and mk3s / class 08s to be done.

Incidentally, anyone know why for the past couple of days Nottingham - Skegness has been dogbox galore? where have all the 156s gone? Saw one on Etches park and one on a Lincoln Central - Leicester service!

 

[222001]

158873 was out of service (but running thank god!) on Etches Park today. My guess is that now the meridians have been finished, the remaining mixed bag of 153s will slowly pass through the paint shed, and the 158s are slowly being refurbed, which will only leave the class 43s and mk3s / class 08s to be done.

Incidentally, anyone know why for the past couple of days Nottingham - Skegness has been dogbox galore? where have all the 156s gone? Saw one on Etches park and one on a Lincoln Central - Leicester service!

I've noticed a 156s doing some Norwich - Chesterfield services.

 

[P156KWJ]

There is a Central Trains dogbox running on the first Nottingham-Norwich today, rare move

 

[MCR247]

There is a Central Trains dogbox running on the first Nottingham-Norwich today, rare move

hock:hock:hock:hock: :roll: lol

 

[P156KWJ]

and yet there's a 5 car train (153+153+156+153) on the Skegness-Nottingham (they'll probably just use a 153 on its way back to Boston) and there were about 4 people per coach

 

[P156KWJ]

The 156s have settled in to their liveries nicely, the other day 156401 in particular was very dirty!

 

[class 313]

The 156s have settled in to their liveries nicely, the other day 156401 in particular was very dirty!

Well it is the Sandite season...

 

[P156KWJ]

yeah that along with brake dust, they look pretty bad

 

[class 313]

yeah that along with brake dust, they look pretty bad

You seen some of the 222s? We thought they were dirty in the MML livery...