Livery lists for LM,XC,EM,NX

[PaintYourWagon]

As noted previously in response to your earlier post:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17134

The status changed recently with 409 going into FCC livery:

In FCC livery
(7) - 321401-404/406/408-409

Not in FCC
(12) - 319008/009/011/012/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220 in Southern livery.
( 1) - 319430 in Thameslink silver/blue.
( 6) - 321405/410 opting in Silverlink livery; 321407/418/419/420 stored at Hornsey in Silverlink livery.

Corrections welcome.

 

[87015]

Okay thanks. Still refurbishment is planned though isn't it- to be carried out at Clacton including installing PIS

If any one has specific livery listing for 321/4s (inc London Midland units and FCC) would be useful. I seem to be incorrect as I have marked 421-432 in the white livery

No all refurbishment was caped when the extension was not given. Shame, because the plans (2+2 in parts) were good. And the 153 looked pretty nifty!

421/422/435/437 only ones still in service in Silverlink
423/432 only ex Silverlink white ones although 433/434/436 at Doncaster will presumably come back the same.
424 stopped at Clacton for staff training, not worked since Spring.
425 stopped at IL (Silverlink) since Easter and being used as a xmas tree like 346.
426/427/428/429/430/431 in service in full NX livery although 430 might be stopped currently also.

 

[MCR247]

But NXEA have got an extension?

 

[Crossforth]

After NXEC fell through, the initial extension was cancelled but under the new Government, it has been extended.

 

[387star]

are 321418-420 allocated to FCC or not? Wiki contradicts itelf by stating they are allocated to FCC before admitting they are unallocated

 

[87015]

But NXEA have got an extension?

Which was only decided a few months ago and is only for nine months (plus options.) The refurb plans were based on the full three year extension and without a gap of almost a year when there was no decision one way or another.

 

[PaintYourWagon]

"scotrail forums" notes that 158868 is now at Glasgow Works, 158867 is in service.

 

[O L Leigh]

c2c 357220 in NX livery

Not sure about that, old fella.

I'm pretty sure this was the unit that rolled into Liv St P6 next to my train at about 2130 last night and it was only partially complete. In fact, it had got the original green doors these units were delivered with (remember them?) and there were still rather a lot of purple around the panel joins and headlights. Not only that but all the windows had been masked on the inside, but I was just about able to see that the seats had been removed to facilitate an internal repaint.

The 317/5s were refurbished by One but did they replace flooring? Looking at wiki the flooring does not match the upholstery and looks very busy!

Yes the flooring is new. The refresh consisted of new flooring and seat covers, and a full internal repaint.

I am gathering an interest in the 317s as don't know much about them. It is interesting seeing the many differences in interiors and the 317/7 interior is rather splendid!

Yes, they are rather splendid aren't they. Very nice in First Class.

O L Leigh

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

100% sure mate. I had that unit twice last week, definiately in NX livery.

 

[387star]

Thanks for that.

class 377s... some Southern units have a green carpet but obvious connexe style seating (grey/blue) was the carpet specified by Govia for being green? I also notice SouthEastern 375s appear to have blu table tops unlike Southern units
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Also did Wagn originally fit the 317/6s with purple seating or did this only take place after the livery change.. if so did they have different upholstery to match the earlier white/blue/red/grey colour scheme?

 

[Pumbaa]

All detailed here!

http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/features/sn377int01.html

 

[387star]

any news on when/if any more class 317s will be repainted now all 317/5s, 7s and 8s are in some form of NX livery apart from one 317/5 out of service..? 317/6s?
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Thanks I have read that just wondered on the carpet choice

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

any news on when/if any more class 317s will be repainted now all 317/5s, 7s and 8s are in some form of NX livery apart from one 317/5 out of service..? 317/6s?
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Thanks I have read that just wondered on the carpet choice

317512 came back from Chart Leacon on Monday night and should be out in service within the next few days, 317886 is currently at Chart Leacon being painted. (The one out of service is 317511 - there are a lot of roumers flying around about this unit at the moment but as there are so many I'm not posting anything until I see something for myself as to what is happening).

Hopefully the 317/6's will go next for repaint. 649/50 & 51 are desperate for a repaint as they still carry the WAGN livery - which as nice as it is - its looking very tired and tatty now. Will post again when I know anything about the /6's.

 

[O L Leigh]

My understanding was that the Cl317/6's were going to be done as part of the Cl321 programme once all the "Bins" had been done, but that could have changed since. I would like to hope that they'd be done next once 886 comes back. 511 is going to take a bit more work before being fit to return to traffic so could still be a while coming.

As for the seat covers, the Cl317/6's were originally classified Cl317/2 and had the same internal layout as the older units of the same class (previously Cl317/1 now more commonly known as Cl317/5). WAGN, then under the ownership of Prism Rail, sent them away for refurb where they were repainted in the cream livery with red doors and given the current interior with 2+2 seating, new carpets, new lighting and moving the 1st class section to one end of the unit.

O L Leigh

 

[387star]

Okay thanks.

Regarding 886 and even 512 they seem to take forever to come out- must be a thorough job! The 317/8s in paticular seemed to take almost a year to finish!

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

NXEA 321337 and 321436 at Donny for relivery
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NXEA 321433 can also be added to the 'plain White' list. Currently at Donny for relivery

 

[387star]

five SL units to do then- glad I'm finally up to date with that
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any news on 321413/415 for LM

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

Okay thanks.

Regarding 886 and even 512 they seem to take forever to come out- must be a thorough job! The 317/8s in paticular seemed to take almost a year to finish!

317512 came out of Ilford tonight on 5H46 (1626 Ilford-Liverpool St) to form 2H46 (1713 Liv St - Cambridge). Providing it stays on the same diagram, it'll be finishing at Cambridge tonight. Not sure why this unit took so long to complete. 886 should be back within the next 2/3 weeks.

 

[PaintYourWagon]

Posted by RRNE on northernrailways forum:

HST Power Car repainting has resumed with 43044 emerging from Neville Hill at the the end of September 2010.


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Scotrail forum advises that 158869 has gone into Glasgow works and 158868 is now in service.

 

[387star]

no more wessex alphaline

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

NXEA 321339 at Doncaster for relivery.

 

[PaintYourWagon]

East Coast 91127 in silver livery.

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Abrail notes southeastern 465012 [confirmed in video] and 465240 [confirmed in photo].

Abrail also notes c2c 357016 [video confirmed], 357018, 357221.

Confirmations for 357018/221 would be great.

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

NXEA 317649 at Ilford for relivery

 

[jopsuk]

is that the first /2 to go?

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

It sure is. It's also one of the 3 WAGN liveried ones.

 

[387star]

Finally

Will all 317/6s be worked through?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

They will - and apparently they'll be done in number order.

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

Only a very minor point (and a bit petty really I suppose!) readers of Rail may have seen the small article titled 'C6X Overhaul for NXEA Class 317's' on page 27 of issue 655 - the 317/6's are to be done in numerical order - 317672 is the highest numbered /6, not 671 as Rail said.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how accurate that piece on 317511 is. My last update on 511 was last week, and I was told that 511 has been backwards and forwards between A shop, B shop, and the yard for whatever reasons. When asked about its move to Chart Leaon, I was laughed at (in a 'yeah right' tone, if that makes sense), so read into that what you will. 317886 is yet to come back from CL, so watch this space.

 

[jopsuk]

For anyone having difficulty following, with the 317s /2 and /6 are the same thing- they're numbered 3176xx, but the TOPS information panels on the units say they're 317/2. They were previously numbered 3173xx.

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

For anyone having difficulty following, with the 317s /2 and /6 are the same thing- they're numbered 3176xx, but the TOPS information panels on the units say they're 317/2. They were previously numbered 3173xx.

317301-307 now numbered 317501-507
317308-310 now numbered 317708-710 (Stansted Express)
317311-313 now numbered 317508-510
317314 now numbered 317714 (Stansted Express)
317315-318 now numbered 317511-514
317319 now numbered 317719 (Stansted Express)
317320 now numbered 317515
317321 now numbered 317881 (Stansted Express)
317322-323 now numbered 317722-723 (Stansted Express)
317324-328 now numbered 317882-886 (Stansted Express)
317329 now numbered 317729 (Stansted Express)
317330-331 now numbered 317887-888 (Stansted Express)
317332 now numbered 317732 (Stansted Express)
317333-336 now numbered 317889-892 (Stansted Express)
317337-348 still carry these numbers, in service with FCC
317349-372 now numbered 317649-672