Liverpool to Wigan

[frodshamfella]

Just noticed this service at Liverpool Lime Street. Not the usual route, is this a 'parliamentary ' service or something new ?

Thanks

 

[Bletchleyite]

I believe it's a "Parly" for the west to north curve at Parkside, yes.

 

[hexagon789]

Just noticed this service at Liverpool Lime Street. Not the usual route, is this a 'parliamentary ' service or something new ?

Thanks

It is a sort of parliamentary for the Lowton Jcn/Newton-le-Willows chord; frequently cancelled too...

Previous thread here:

1542 Liverpool Lime Street to Wigan North Western - what is the point

I refer to the service that runs via St Helens Junction that is frequently subject to cancellation. This service was already cancelled this week on Monday, Tuesday and I'm now today. What's the point of this diagram due to the poor running of it.

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[pokemonsuper9]

Just noticed this service at Liverpool Lime Street. Not the usual route, is this a 'parliamentary ' service or something new ?

Thanks

It's 2 trains from Liverpool a day in the afternoon and 1 towards it in the morning.
It's been a thing for a while I think, although maybe not at the same times.

 

[frodshamfella]

I was going for the Chester train, which was leaving from Platform 7, noticed this service while I checked the indicator, just never noticed it before.

 

[hexagon789]

I was going for the Chester train, which was leaving from Platform 7, noticed this service while I checked the indicator, just never noticed it before.

Probably because it's cancelled so often!

Within the last 12 weeks, it was cancelled more than 40% of the time.

 

[Gathursty]

I did it many years ago first thing in the morning from Wigan to Huyton then straight back (and back to bed) just to tick it off.

 

[Bevan Price]

It's 2 trains from Liverpool a day in the afternoon and 1 towards it in the morning.
It's been a thing for a while I think, although maybe not at the same times.

Also useful for route knowledge retention, I suppose ?

 

[Adam0984]

Also useful for route knowledge retention, I suppose ?

That's what it's there for to retain route knowledge for planned and unplanned diversions

 

[cjbirkett]

It links to a peak hour Wigan-Man Vic via Chat Moss working then goes onto Springs Branch

 

[scrapy]

There is also an 18.31 service from Liverpool that takes the same route but stops at all stations, and a 09.24 in the opposite direction.

 

[frodshamfella]

Probably because it's cancelled so often!

Within the last 12 weeks, it was cancelled more than 40% of the time.

not great that ! Maybe I will give it a go sometime, if it runs.

 

[Ianigsy]

When Liverpool-Scotland trains were concentrated on Lime Street, they originally used to serve St Helens Junction, as that was considered the town’s Inter City station in the 1970s.

The later departure from Lime Street used to cross my usual TPE from Leeds at Newton-le-Willows until the last timetable change and generally seemed to have a reasonable loading- perhaps more comfortable for Wiganers than a train full of people for the intermediate stations on the Prescot route?

 

[L+Y]

I must be an unusual traveller who used the evening service semi regularly for convenience. When I worked in Leeds and lived in Wigan a few years back, a change at NLW onto the half six-ish to Wigan was often a quicker and more convenient change than at Victoria!