Liverpool to Knaresborough route query

[breadfan]

Would a Liverpool to Knaresborough off peak return be valid changing at York rather than Leeds?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Oscar]

Is Liverpool to Knaresborough via York the shortest route or within 3 miles of the shortest route? No.

NRT mileages (as required by the Routeing Guide):

Table 90 & 39 - Leeds to Liverpool 74 3/4 miles (via Newton-le-Willows and Manchester Victoria)
Table 39 - Leeds to Liverpool 77 1/2 miles (via Warrington Central and Manchester Piccadilly)
Table 39 - York to Liverpool 103 miles

Table 35 - Leeds to Knaresborough 22 miles
Table 35 - York to Knaresborough 16 3/4 miles

Distance via Newton-le-Willows and Leeds (shortest route): 94 3/4 miles
Distance via Warrington Central and Leeds (direct Liverpool - Leeds TPE): 99 1/2 miles
Distance via York: 119 3/4 miles

Is Liverpool to Knaresborough via York possible on a direct train? No.

Is Liverpool to Knaresborough via York a mapped route? No - York is an Routeing Point for Knaresborough but fails the fares check so is not appropriate for Liverpool.

Is the route reasonable (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/terms/guidance.html - no legal basis for this though)? - Yes, in terms of distance and journey time, no in terms of fares.

Is the route sold by Trainline and WebTIS powered booking engines? - No.

 

[yorkie]

A ticket to the next stop, Cattal, should be purchased instead. If you already have your tickets, you can ask for an over-distance excess fare before you commence your journey.

This would allow you to make your outward journey via York, and return via Leeds (or vice-versa if you prefer).

 

[soil]

Is Liverpool to Knaresborough via York the shortest route or within 3 miles of the shortest route? No.

NRT mileages (as required by the Routeing Guide):
Table 39 - Leeds to Liverpool 77 1/2 miles
Table 39 - York to Liverpool 103 miles

Table 35 - Leeds to Knaresborough 22 miles
Table 35 - York to Knaresborough 16 3/4 miles

Distance via Leeds: 99 1/2 miles
Distance via York: 119 3/4 miles

The shortest route from Liverpool to Leeds is via Eccles and Manchester Victoria, which is already nearly 3 miles shorter than the direct service. Not that it affects the result in this case of course.

 

[Oscar]

The shortest route from Liverpool to Leeds is via Eccles and Manchester Victoria, which is already nearly 3 miles shorter than the direct service. Not that it affects the result in this case of course.

Thank you for reminding me of this - I have amended the post.