Liverpool 29/01/18

[sjoh]

Anyone know what's going on? Lots of turnbacks at Crewe by VT and LNWR with Liverpool bound services.

 

[waynemorrell]

Anyone know what's going on? Lots of turnbacks at Crewe by VT and LNWR with Liverpool bound services.

Signal problems at Winsford according to NRE.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/today.aspx

“A fault with the signalling system near Winsford is causing disruption to journeys between Acton Bridge and Crewe. This is expected to continue until 18:00.

Services may be delayed by up to 30 minutes or cancelled.

Alternative travel options for London Northwestern Railway customers:

All trains from Birmingham will terminate/start at Crewe.

You may use Merseyrail, Northern, East Midlands Trains, CrossCountry, Virgin Trains and Arriva Trains Wales via any reasonable route.

Replacement road transport is running between Liverpool South Parkway and Crewe.”

 

[Smethwickian]

From National Rail Enquiries:

London Northwestern Railway;Virgin Trains;
Description

A fault with the signalling system near Winsford is causing disruption to journeys between Acton Bridge and Crewe. This is expected to continue until 18:00.

Services may be delayed by up to 30 minutes or cancelled.

Alternative travel options for London Northwestern Railway customers:

All trains from Birmingham will terminate/start at Crewe.

You may use Merseyrail, Northern, East Midlands Trains, CrossCountry, Virgin Trains and Arriva Trains Wales via any reasonable route.

Replacement road transport is running between Liverpool South Parkway and Crewe.

Alternative travel options for Virgin Trains customers:

You may use Merseyrail, TransPennine Express, Virgin Trains East Coast and West Midlands Railway via any reasonable route.

Replacement road transport is running between Runcorn and Crewe.

 

[trainophile]

Got caught up in this today. I was on the 1236 from Birmingham which terminated in platform 7 at Crewe, and we were told to get the 1352 VTWC to Chester and travel to Liverpool that way. However while we were all waiting on platform 11 for this, someone (another passenger) told us there was a Liverpool train arriving on platform 6, so about half of us went over there, and sure enough the delayed 1207 from Euston pulled in. We boarded, still wondering whether it would actually continue its route, but despite a couple of waits on the way to Runcorn it eventually made Lime Street 24 minutes late.

Couldn't understand why they were cancelling BHM-LIV trains but VTWC ones seemed to be able to get through.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Couldn't understand why they were cancelling BHM-LIV trains but VTWC ones seemed to be able to get through.

Because LM (and by extension LNR) timetabled the half hourly service way too tightly, so even a slight delay results in turning short. The reliability really is very poor; they'd be better running hourly with most trains 8 car and being done with it.

 

[fowler9]

Because LM (and by extension LNR) timetabled the half hourly service way too tightly, so even a slight delay results in turning short. The reliability really is very poor; they'd be better running hourly with most trains 8 car and being done with it.

This is probably true. I would say at least once a week there is some kind of problem with the Birmingham to Liverpool service that service that results in them getting turned at Parkway if not earlier, and this is just in the narrow period of time I pass through Parkway between 5 & 6.

 

[Loop & Link]

Because LM (and by extension LNR) timetabled the half hourly service way too tightly, so even a slight delay results in turning short. The reliability really is very poor; they'd be better running hourly with most trains 8 car and being done with it.

Or, more accurately they were told by Network Rail RCM, to thin the service out, especially as there was temporary block working in place after 12:00. No chance you could run a full service on the WCML with that.

 

[47271]

I was at Euston this morning (thankfully on my way to Manchester) and it was obvious that everything north of Crewe had gone into meltdown from around 1030 onwards. I left fairly soon after that, but they were directing Preston and Carlisle passengers to travel via Manchester, and those travelling to Scotland over to King's Cross.

I expected a rush on my Manchester train, and that may well have been the case, but there's nothing quite like Coach G in an 11 car Pendolino to deliver peace and quiet however hectic things are all around!