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superkev

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How about the automated shuttles introduced at Heathrow see .
http://www.route-one.net/articles/T...d_Arma_minibus_makes_its_UK_debut_at_Heathrow.

The autonomous Nayva Arma minibus made its UK debut at Heathrow Airport last Tuesday (24 January), with the manufacturer saying that the technology is ready to be put to work in short-distance, shuttle-type applications.
A half-mile demonstration route around Heathrow’s Compass Centre was used for the Arma demonstration and Navya Vice-President of Sales Henri Coron says that the product is already a financially viable option.

The bi-directional Arma seats 11 passengers with a further four standees...
Bradford int - Foster square: Wakefield Westgate/ kirkgate. Ponteftract and more?
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It's a shame the PRT system at Heathrow has not been expanded as originally planned to serve the whole estate and neighbouring hotels. There were proposals for a system in Daventry that would link it to the rail network paid for my large scale housing development. As is often the case technology has moved on quicker than expected and I would have thought small scale driverless buses as being trailed in Paris will provide such links in future
 

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It's a shame the PRT system at Heathrow has not been expanded as originally planned to serve the whole estate and neighbouring hotels. There were proposals for a system in Daventry that would link it to the rail network paid for my large scale housing development. As is often the case technology has moved on quicker than expected and I would have thought small scale driverless buses as being trailed in Paris will provide such links in future

Ultra's PRT vehicles, as used in the Heathrow T5 parking shuttle, have also been trialled in Greenwich recently as part of an Government backed autonomous vehicle project in Greenwich.

https://gateway-project.org.uk/

This uses exactly the same type of vehicle as Heathrow but with control systems completely replaced. If such an autonomous shuttle runs on dedicated lanes and guideways, then it is PRT. Segregation from general traffic is desirable but the autonomous vehicle paradigm could also allow operations in shared space, in part or whole, where that was expedient, i.e where the costs of full segregation would be prohibitive.

Some nearby stations on different routes may be worth linking by such shuttles if they can open up compelling new connectional opportunities and costs can be contained. Such technology could also provide 'last mile' connectivity for heavy rail stations particularly in lower density suburban locations where bus feeders are often difficult to operate economically at attractive frequencies.

Links between nearby stations (and other types of transport terminals) can also include covered simple walkways (e.g. Hackney) and travalator routes, as well as larger vehicle shuttle systems like APMs (automated people movers). Autonomous road vehicle technology could also help reduce costs of APM type systems.
 

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The wakefield stations are very very close. By the time you've faffed getting in and out of the minibus, you might as well walk unless very reduced mobility.
 

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Links between some of the stations in the Blackwater Valley (Farnborough Main & North, Ash Vale & North Camp, etc) could be fairly useful. Although a station a Farnborough Gate (at the McDonald's between Farnborough North and Blackwater) would pricky be close enough not to justify a link.

Likewise, I think a new junction to allow trains to run west to North from Farnborough to Frimley and North (under the main line) to west to allow the reverse movement without impacting more than needed on the mainline would also be beneficial (not least in allowing new rail services to run but also as a useful diversion route to allow trains to bypass Woking during times of engineering works, or maybe freight during times of disruption).

Yes such a link would be much more costly than an automated shuttle, but then it would also attract a lot more people to the rail network. As a new service could run Basingstoke to Ascot via Farnborough (extend to Salisbury once that's got wires) with the possibility of new stations at Basingstoke leisure park, Old Basing, Fleet West (near the leisure centre), Southwood, Frimley Green and Watchmoor Park (large business park and Sainsburys). The could be more stations on the Salisbury leg, like Oakley, as well.

Given that the Aldershot Urban area has a population similar to Plymouth or Milton Keynes, in an area where there is a relatively large amount of traffic and where small stations like Hook have about 700,000 passengers a year and places like Winchfield is potentially due to have thousands of new homes over the next 20 years, it is likely that such a link with the associated rail services could be viable.
 
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The wakefield stations are very very close. By the time you've faffed getting in and out of the minibus, you might as well walk unless very reduced mobility.

especially if you go the reverse of the route taken by the free city bus when going between westgate and Kirkgate ... although through town or the ridings centres isn;t much further

as the free city bous route goes Kirkgate - (some journeys to the Hepworth gallery) - retail park - Westgate and the around town ...
 

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The wakefield stations are very very close. By the time you've faffed getting in and out of the minibus, you might as well walk unless very reduced mobility.

If you'd said that about Bradford, I'd agree - but Wakefield less so. Both cities have cross-city shuttle buses (Wakefield's is free, not sure if Bradford's still is), which are less convenient in one direction than the other admittedly. Wakefield though even has a train service between the two stations, albeit only hourly.

The question is, would these robo-buses be any faster or cheaper than the current buses or walking? Probably not, especially if the buses ran in both directions round their "loop".
 
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Bradford's City Bus is no more. Following the ending of funding, the local LOT company ran it as a commercial route, charging most passengers £1, but they went bust and no one was willing to take it on.

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