Leicester to Edinburgh - via Hull

[paulcleaver]

Hi

I need to travel from Leicester to Edinburgh out friday am, return sunday pm.

On the way north I need to go to Hull for friday afternoon, before continuing north to Edinburgh.

I usually buy an Off Peak Return via Derby at a cost of £89.90.

Looking at the maps Im on route as far as Doncaster and Selby. So I was thinking of getting a Doncaster to Hull single and a Hull to Selby single to permit my journey.

Is that the cheapest way of doing this route?

I hold a Disabled Persons Railcard.

Thanks for any assistance.

 

[Romilly]

A discounted £14.45 Doncaster-Hull anytime day return is valid via Goole or Selby, so would be valid for Doncaster-Goole-Hull-Selby. As you say, once you are back at Selby you are on a route authorised by your Leicester-Edinburgh ticket.

Or looking at this weekend, if you are happy to use Advance tickets (all fares with railcard discount and with online discount, where applicable, for booking Virgin Trains East Coast journeys on the VTEC website):

Leicester-Hull £13.30 (dep 1148, arr 1511, change Nottingham, Grantham & Doncaster)

Hull-Edinburgh £21.35 (dep 1918, arr 2316, change York)

Edinburgh-Leicester £42.05 (dep 1400, 1600 or 1700, change Peterborough, bus Peterborough-Leicester)

Total: £76.70 rather than £104.35, and might be less if looking to book for 12 weeks ahead

 

[paulcleaver]

Thanks for that info.

I think I'll go with the additional £14.45 ticket, as the off peak return gives me a lot of flexability returning from Edinburgh on Sunday. I quite like to take the direct sunday night York to Leicester train, rather than that rail replacement bus from Peterborough.

 

[Romilly]

That's fair enough. For what it's worth, to avoid the bus but still admittedly sacrificing flexibility, for this Sunday Trainsplit suggested that you could do Edinburgh-Leicester on the 1630 changing at York and Derby for £46.65, by buying separate Advance tickets for Edinburgh-Newcastle, Newcastle-York, York-Sheffield, Sheffield-Derby and Derby-Leicester. Or there are £50.80 Edinburgh-Leicester Advances travelling via Carlisle & Preston and changing just at Birmingham New Street.

 

[paulcleaver]

Ok...thank you for that further information.

 

[34D]

You aren't subject to the routeing guide with that railcard.

You could justifiably do Leicester to Sheffield, change for Sheffield to hull, then either do hull Selby york or change at scarborough

 

[bb21]

You aren't subject to the routeing guide with that railcard.

Why not?

 

[paulcleaver]

I'm not subject to the routing guide because I have a Disabled Person's Railcard?

Is that right?

I'd hate to arrive in Hull with an invalid ticket.

 

[34D]

Why not?

Is it not the case that the disabled railcard is exempt from the routeing guide?

 

[bb21]

Never heard of that myself.

All I know is that discretion should be exercised where appropriate, taking into account the passenger's individual needs.

 

[TUC]

The Routing Guide states 'Train Operating Companies may make special arrangements for disabled customers and an accompanying passenger via Passenger Assist (PA). Provided these arrangements are made in
accordance with the procedures laid down in the Manual, they will override the requirements of the Routeing Guide. All staff involved in revenue protection duties will be advised, on each individual occasion, of customers who are exempted under these arrangements.' http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_instructions.pdf

i.e. Where TOCs make special arrangements for a disabled passenger that overrides the Routing Guide. That is very different to a disabled persons railcard holder going by whatever route they wish.

 

[Quakkerillo]

I think this would be more the case that someone with a wheelchair is allowed a slightly different route, if a station where they have to change isn't adequately equipped (no elevator/staff), so they can travel easily.

 

[paulcleaver]

I think I'll buy that Doncaster to Hull ticket just to be certain that I go through the gateline at Hull without incident.

I dont see my journey of Leicester-Hull-Edinburgh as being a permitted route so I'll get that extra ticket to make my journey valid.

 

[34D]

The Routing Guide states 'Train Operating Companies may make special arrangements for disabled customers and an accompanying passenger via Passenger Assist (PA). Provided these arrangements are made in
accordance with the procedures laid down in the Manual, they will override the requirements of the Routeing Guide. All staff involved in revenue protection duties will be advised, on each individual occasion, of customers who are exempted under these arrangements.' http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_instructions.pdf

i.e. Where TOCs make special arrangements for a disabled passenger that overrides the Routing Guide. That is very different to a disabled persons railcard holder going by whatever route they wish.

I apologise. I had something in my memory, and my recollection wasn't 100% correct.