Universediver
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What time will the last Virgin train depart on 8th December?
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Bletchleyite
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If you mean from its origin, I suspect the 2324 from Euston to Wolves:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P59170/2019-12-08/detailed
Edit, isn't it actually 7th that is their last day - franchises normally start on a Sunday to give a "soft start"? If so quite possibly the 2214 from New St:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P43071/2019-12-07/detailed
MalaiseForever
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The 2214 from New St isn’t a Virgin.
Bletchleyite
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So it isn't, not sure how I managed that.
2142 Euston-Wolves then?
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P59156/2019-12-07/detailed
It arrives at Wolves 1 minute after the last arrival at Euston, so from a quick glance it might well be the last "scheduled wheel turning in passenger service" too, though
Triumph
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FirstGroup & Trentialia commence operations on Sunday 8th December 2019.
The last VT will be on Saturday 7th December 9G47 2142 EUS-WVH arriving ay WVH at 2347.
The first voyager is being rebranded at the moment - 221101
The last VT will be on Saturday 7th December 9G47 2142 EUS-WVH arriving ay WVH at 2347.
The first voyager is being rebranded at the moment - 221101
Bletchleyite
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Yep, though the last wheel turned in passenger service, by one minute, is the Wolves service noted above. In practice however they may prove to be the other way round!
yeah I was going to say! very possible that the Piccadilly service may get in first or the other way round, we'll have to see.
Kite159
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I'm going to predict that either the 20:15 Piccadilly - Euston will arrive very early due to the LNwR train it was timetabled to follow not running due to the strike, or arrive into Euston late when the LNwR train it is timetabled to follow from Northampton is running late.
EE Andy b1
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Sorry, the last Manchester - Euston on the 07/12 is 1A71 2035 departure, Euston arrival at 2300, so not in the running, so to speak.
EDIT:
Apologies, there is a 1T71 2015 dep. arriving Euston at 2346 as stated!
Man United Footex.
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EE Andy b1
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The first 2 First Trenitalia passenger trains on the 08/12 are 0805 ex Manchester and 0805 ex Wolverhampton, both to Euston.
Triumph
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221101 is out today
The first Voyager in all white with black windows.
Working the following:
BrtnUNCmd 03+57 5A81 R
New St. 04+27 04+40 5A81 F
Euston 06+24 DETACH
Euston 08:10 1D82
Holyhead 11:53 12.53 1A43
Chester 14.28 ATTACH
Chester 14.35 1A43 R
Euston 16:36 17:10 1D91 F
Chester 19:14 DETACH
Chester 19.23 1D91
Holyhead 21:00
The first Voyager in all white with black windows.
Working the following:
BrtnUNCmd 03+57 5A81 R
New St. 04+27 04+40 5A81 F
Euston 06+24 DETACH
Euston 08:10 1D82
Holyhead 11:53 12.53 1A43
Chester 14.28 ATTACH
Chester 14.35 1A43 R
Euston 16:36 17:10 1D91 F
Chester 19:14 DETACH
Chester 19.23 1D91
Holyhead 21:00
Which is why the first train of a new franchise is often a rail replacement bus!
The 2015 appears to be a STP train running on 7th December only, although it leaves earlier it arrives at Euston later than 1A71, at 2346 (RTT shows it running via Northampton).
I think the Manchester derby is that day, so presumably a "footex"?
EE Andy b1
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Yes, your correct, my apologies!
By the way, franchise changeover is at 0200 on 08th December 2019.
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johnnychips
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Scotrail314209
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I believe the last service from Glasgow is the 1840 to Birmingham if I’m not mistaken?
Franchises start on Sundays as the railway week starts on a Sunday
EE Andy b1
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Last Virgin Trains services.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Hi. I found this in RTT but Virgin Trains are denying it exists on Twitter...
Picture shows a 2148 Virgin Trains service from Euston shown on RealTime Trains
is the 2142 not the actual last Virgin Train then?
Picture shows a 2148 Virgin Trains service from Euston shown on RealTime Trains
is the 2142 not the actual last Virgin Train then?
Mainline421
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Looks like someone asked this earlier and VT confirmed "It will be running, but will be booked as a relief train..." https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/1200347334271545346 ... Which would mean that 9G47 isn't the last as they're saying. One wonders why they're expecting it to be so busy and why they're stating the 21:42 is the last?
Bletchleyite
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Looks like someone asked this earlier and VT confirmed "It will be running, but will be booked as a relief train..." https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/1200347334271545346 ... Which would mean that 9G47 isn't the last as they're saying. One wonders why they're expecting it to be so busy and why they're stating the 21:42 is the last?
Is it perhaps that they'll run the 2148 if the 2142 is full and standing, but not if it isn't?
TT-ONR-NRN
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Ah dang it! Now I don’t know which one to catch!
Mainline421
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sufian123
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2148 did run I was on it. Ran as a relief to 2142 being full and standing. 2148 wasn’t busy at all. Makes sense passengers didn’t want to change trains in 5 mins.
Statto
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Last ever Virgin Euston to Manchester had to terminate at Stockport because of a train fault.
https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/1203461034155085824
https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/1203461034155085824
I was on the 2148 last night as far as MKC.
I suspect VTWC had it as a relief because the 2142 was expected to be very busy with LNR scheduled to be on strike and it wouldn't look good if passengers were unable to board the final service due to over crowding.
My observations:
- Loads of Virgin Staff present on the platform, all wearing their uniform and name badges for the final time. Selfies being taken etc. There seemed to be a genuine sadness that they would no longer be working for Virgin
- The 2142 was packed. I waited on the platform as it was unclear if the 2148 was available for public use or whether it was for invited guests only
- A few minutes before 2142 the 2148 (which was on the adjacent platform) was opened up. I boarded and got a decent seat.
- The 2148 became busy as well (vindicating the decision to run the additional service)
- A couple of announcements that it was the last every Virgin Train
- Time of Our Lives played on the PA after one of the announcements
- Staff gave out some goodies. I managed a packet of crisps but some kids got lucky with Virgin goody bags
- A few people at platform ends taking pictures
I've never seen a staff turn out like that at the end of a franchise. When the day comes for First Trenitalia to run their final train I doubt very much if a staff turn out like that will be seen.
I suspect VTWC had it as a relief because the 2142 was expected to be very busy with LNR scheduled to be on strike and it wouldn't look good if passengers were unable to board the final service due to over crowding.
My observations:
- Loads of Virgin Staff present on the platform, all wearing their uniform and name badges for the final time. Selfies being taken etc. There seemed to be a genuine sadness that they would no longer be working for Virgin
- The 2142 was packed. I waited on the platform as it was unclear if the 2148 was available for public use or whether it was for invited guests only
- A few minutes before 2142 the 2148 (which was on the adjacent platform) was opened up. I boarded and got a decent seat.
- The 2148 became busy as well (vindicating the decision to run the additional service)
- A couple of announcements that it was the last every Virgin Train
- Time of Our Lives played on the PA after one of the announcements
- Staff gave out some goodies. I managed a packet of crisps but some kids got lucky with Virgin goody bags
- A few people at platform ends taking pictures
I've never seen a staff turn out like that at the end of a franchise. When the day comes for First Trenitalia to run their final train I doubt very much if a staff turn out like that will be seen.
sufian123
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It wasn’t to bad compared to 2142. I kept changing seats on 2148 plenty in coach B
The 2142 looked proper wedged.
sufian123
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yup. I got off it as soon as the guard announced it.
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