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Kings Cross 20 Years On

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petethetim

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KINGS CROSS 20 YEARS ON

I would just like to post this as a tribute to the 31 people who lost their lives on The evening of Wed November 18th 1987.

I have particular reasons for recalling the events of that evening myself because I watched the news unfold while siting at My Mums death bed having been summoned to the hospital here in Belfast I watched it on a television in the Hospitals refreshment room were I'd nip to for a coffee & a breather & it was the first time I recall something being covered through out the night ( ITV had just went 24 Hour about a year before that) I recall going back up to the room at about 6 am on the 19th & Breakfast time had just started on BBC 1 & the death toll had risen dramatically till over 20 ( in the early hours they had being saying the 6 -10 people were feared dead )

I did not get a chance to hear anymore of the news as my mum took a turn for the worse & in fact died at 9:03am on the 19th , but when I finally got a chance to sit down that day & eves drop on yet another back ground TV broadcast I was horrified to see that they here saying at least 30 people & possibly up-wards of 50 could have lost their lives ..

Twenty years on we now Know the Death Toll was 31 & over 60 people were injured & maimed I would just like to pay tribute to them & send my sincereness condolences to their family & friends ,as in my own special way I too remember the next 24 Hours for my own special loss
R.I.P.The Kings Cross 31

R.I.P. Mum x o x
 
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What actually happened that day to cause the fire as all i know is it was a fire at KXTL Underground?
 

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What actually happened that day to cause the fire as all i know is it was a fire at KXTL Underground?

ascot some smoker dropped his match on to the wooden escalator, which then fell through to rubbish underneath the esculator and caused the fire.
 

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iIt's for this reason that wooden escalators were removed, and also smoking is strictly prohibited on any underground station. I've not seen anyone smoke on an LU underground station, but have occasionally at places like BHM, which does make me angry whenever I see that sort of behaviour.

Smoking has no place on any railway station, the idea that some people think it is OK to light a small fire and release toxic fumes in public is disgraceful.

I have removed 3 cigarettes from law breakers so far; 2 of them delaying HSTs on the ECML and 1 disgusting woman who tried to re-use it when I stamped it on the floor at NCL. Told a few off too.

Anyone know where I can get a small, portable water sprinkler as think it could prove useful.
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I will be at Kings Cross only a few hours before 20 years exactly since the tragedy, while I am there I will have those who were killed/injured in my thoughts.

May nothing like it EVER happen again.
 

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Thanks to the Section 12 Fire Regulations now in place, as a result of the King's Cross Fire, even if it does happen again, god forbid, staff are trained to deal with it and there are emergency procedures in place.

May they all rest in peace, as well as Pete's Mum. :)
 
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Just some technical reasons behind the fire

It wasn't rubbish as such, it was grime, fat and various other things stuck in the guide rails of the escalator. The cigarette dropped onto the fat, caused an initial spark, hence igniting.

However due to the nature of an escalator, the fire grew diagonally up underneath the escalator, allowing what was essentially a fireball at the top when it could go up no further...

And indeed, RIP.
 

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My thoughts are with all those who are still mourning victims. Sadly, it was a tragedy waiting to happen when you think about it.
 

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As ever, 90% of the grease and dust in any public space comes from the customers / passengers! That combined with the lack of investment in station infrastructure for some 30-40 (or more years) lead to the situation.
 

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Very sad indeed :( Here's a news report from the time:

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Max said it was a tragedy waiting to happen, but surely if people would just follow rules that are obviously put in place for their safety, then those 31 people would still be alive.
I hope the person that caused it all is aware of what happened, and why, and I hope it stays with them for the rest of their life.

Anyone know where I can get a small, portable water sprinkler as think it could prove useful
Get a super soaker. That'd stop them.
 

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Max said it was a tragedy waiting to happen, but surely if people would just follow rules that are obviously put in place for their safety, then those 31 people would still be alive.
I hope the person that caused it all is aware of what happened, and why, and I hope it stays with them for the rest of their life.


Get a super soaker. That'd stop them.

back then you could still freely smoke on the tube , so it was not down to the lack of rules, it was down to the one person who lit the match/ ciggy that then set of a chain of horrific events.


i remember that add well because at the time i was living in luton and a new store was open, so like any other kid i WANTED to go.
 

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Kings Cross Fire ==> Caused by Smoker ==> Smoking Ban ==> People still smoke ==> Force them to put it out ==> How ==>Super Soaker ==> Where can I get one ==> Toys 'R' Us ==> You Tube Advert ==> Amazing Ad ==> Whats that got to do with the KX Fire = Ask Coxster.


:)
 

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Very Good Be a lot simpler if people would just keep things on Topic , but seeing its already gone off topic Smokers were the cause of the Fire at Bradford City's Ground too
 

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back then you could still freely smoke on the tube , so it was not down to the lack of rules, it was down to the one person who lit the match/ ciggy that then set of a chain of horrific events.

Smoking was banned on all sub-surface sections of LU in 1985, just over two years before the Kings Cross fire.
 

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I have removed 3 cigarettes from law breakers so far; 2 of them delaying HSTs on the ECML and 1 disgusting woman who tried to re-use it when I stamped it on the floor at NCL. Told a few off too.

Anyone know where I can get a small, portable water sprinkler as think it could prove useful.

Reminds me of a sign I saw at a Hotel's bar in York. "If there is anyone smoking in this bar I shall assume you are on fire and take the necessary action."


Yeah, that was great! Many hours were spent annoying parents asking what "millions of Geoffreys" are and why they happen to be under one roof, and nobody could work it out, until I heard only a few years ago that it was "millions said Geoffrey." Oh well :P
 

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Ask Coxster, he's the one who started it.
You little grass ;)

Anyway, this is the "General Discussion" section, with the description "Discussion of world events & topics not covered elsewhere in the forum", as opposed to the section that is actually called London Underground with the description "Discuss the London Underground here".
 

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The death toll would have been less if people underground had been instructed to leave via the thameslink exit or to get on the next train out, rather than using the escalators to reach the surface.
 
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