Bletchleyite
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That's a delayed train causing you to miss the ferry. That's different. The DR threshold isn't relevant mid-journey, all that is relevant is the published connection time.
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Island Line half hourly timetable start date?
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That's a delayed train causing you to miss the ferry. That's different. The DR threshold isn't relevant mid-journey, all that is relevant is the published connection time.
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hermit
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Does this mean that if I travel on split tickets - say Brading to Ryde Pierhead on Island Line, Ferry to Portsmouth (separate ticket), and Portsmouth to London - and the ferry is late arriving at Portsmouth, so that I miss the train for which I have an advance ticket, I am then entitled to use that ticket on the next train to London? I have always assumed not, and I know of cases where SWR ticket inspectors have taken the same view and required the purchase of a new ticket.
Bletchleyite
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If you have a separate ferry ticket bought from Island Line themselves, you are indeed not so entitled, just as you're not if you use London Underground, a bus or a taxi on contactless to join two unrelated train tickets.. But what on earth would you do that for? It generally costs more, not less, than having the ferry as part of a through train ticket, even if you split that through ticket somewhere on the mainland.
hermit
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You do it because cheap advance tickets between Portsmouth and London plus a book of discounted residents’ ferry tickets (useful also for non train-related mainland visits) give overall costs much cheaper than any through tickets, split or otherwise.
Bletchleyite
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Then you pay your money and take your choice/risk.
Chris125
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Sadly but inevitably the 2-car service has fallen apart for the second day in a row - and only hourly today - as the heavy loadings see them lose more and more time until they're cancelled due to the "unexpected number of passengers".
Seems they ran a 4-car train on the 9th for the first time since November to prove they could still be operated, but nothing has come of it.
Seems they ran a 4-car train on the 9th for the first time since November to prove they could still be operated, but nothing has come of it.
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Bletchleyite
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They have got 5 units. Is reliability so bad they can't double up?
Chris125
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I've not seen any suggestion it's reliability related, they've been having no issues providing two units Mon-Sat with 001-004 all seeing use this week. I can only assume it's SWR policy to minimise costs?
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Gloster
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Have they commissioned 005?
Chris125
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Nope, fault free running came to an abrupt halt some time ago - presumably not a priority, more useful as a christmas tree?
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As the units are owned by SWR (rather than Vivarail), you'd think Vivarail would like the fault free running completed so they can hand it over and pocket the cash.
Chris125
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You'd think so, someone claimed to have heard back in June it was being used for spares so perhaps a deal has been done.
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In service today, currently on 2D43
Gloster
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The Islandline site had a note that trains would not be operating tomorrow between 09.00 and 19.00 because of staff sickness: an odd combination of time period and reason. However, it now seems to have disappeared, although it might be on Twitter.
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NR journey planner for tomorrow shows a half hourly (approx) service ex-Shanklin from 06:48 to 08:15. Nothing after that until 15:48, then hourly until 18:48. Then 20:19, 21:19 and 22:42.
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Chris125
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There we go, order complete. 005's fault free running must have been completed successfully, they just didn't need it.
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I hope the works at the foot crossing this week will lead to the removal of the 20mph speed restriction just South of Ryde St Johns Road Station. I hope it may then be possible to run the 30 minute interval timetable but not sure if this will be sufficient to reduce the Brading to Ryde Pier Head travel time to the 13 minutes needed with a 4 minute turn around time. I heard that the staff sickness on 7 September was signalling staff being off sick resulting in the Island Line being closed down for the day, surely SWR should have back up signalling staff to avoid having to close down the Island Line.
www.southwesternrailway.com
Pig Leg crossing improvements
From Monday 12 September to Friday 23 September improvement works will be carried out at Pig Leg Crossing. The pedestrian crossing will be closed from Monday 12 September to Wednesday 21 September, and the line will be closed in the morning of Sunday 18 September, while we complete these works. The improvements will benefit the safety of pedestrians by installing modern crossing alert systems.
Island Line Railway Isle Of Wight | South Western Railway
The Island Line railway on the Isle of Wight operates between Ryde and Shanklin, serving Smallbrook Junction, Brading, Sandown and Lake stations along the way
www.southwesternrailway.com
From Monday 12 September to Friday 23 September improvement works will be carried out at Pig Leg Crossing. The pedestrian crossing will be closed from Monday 12 September to Wednesday 21 September, and the line will be closed in the morning of Sunday 18 September, while we complete these works. The improvements will benefit the safety of pedestrians by installing modern crossing alert systems.
Philip 34002
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I hope the works at the foot crossing this week will lead to the removal of the 20mph speed restriction just South of Ryde St Johns Road Station. I hope it may then be possible to run the 30 minute interval timetable but not sure if this will be sufficient to reduce the Brading to Ryde Pier Head travel time to the 13 minutes needed with a 4 minute turn around time. I heard that the staff sickness on 7 September was signalling staff being off sick resulting in the Island Line being closed down for the day, surely SWR should have back up signalling staff to avoid having to close down the Island Line.
Pig Leg crossing improvementsIsland Line Railway Isle Of Wight | South Western Railway
The Island Line railway on the Isle of Wight operates between Ryde and Shanklin, serving Smallbrook Junction, Brading, Sandown and Lake stations along the way
From Monday 12 September to Friday 23 September improvement works will be carried out at Pig Leg Crossing. The pedestrian crossing will be closed from Monday 12 September to Wednesday 21 September, and the line will be closed in the morning of Sunday 18 September, while we complete these works. The improvements will benefit the safety of pedestrians by installing modern crossing alert systems.
Presumably the Pig Lane crossings works have been completed. Has there been any alteration in the speed limit as a result of these crossing works??I hope the works at the foot crossing this week will lead to the removal of the 20mph speed restriction just South of Ryde St Johns Road Station. I hope it may then be possible to run the 30 minute interval timetable but not sure if this will be sufficient to reduce the Brading to Ryde Pier Head travel time to the 13 minutes needed with a 4 minute turn around time. I heard that the staff sickness on 7 September was signalling staff being off sick resulting in the Island Line being closed down for the day, surely SWR should have back up signalling staff to avoid having to close down the Island Line.
Pig Leg crossing improvementsIsland Line Railway Isle Of Wight | South Western Railway
The Island Line railway on the Isle of Wight operates between Ryde and Shanklin, serving Smallbrook Junction, Brading, Sandown and Lake stations along the way
From Monday 12 September to Friday 23 September improvement works will be carried out at Pig Leg Crossing. The pedestrian crossing will be closed from Monday 12 September to Wednesday 21 September, and the line will be closed in the morning of Sunday 18 September, while we complete these works. The improvements will benefit the safety of pedestrians by installing modern crossing alert systems.
hermit
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A long article by Phil Marsh in the current issue of The Railway Magazine about the problems of the upgraded Island Line. I think it’s a pretty fair summary, though it does not go into the question, much discussed on this thread, of whether, even if sufficient traincrew were available, a 30 minute service to Pierhead would be practicable.
Big Jumby 74
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Have just read same. The underlying problem is touched on, albeit very briefly, the paragraph commencing: "Even before the upgrade......".
Gloster
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The half-hourly service is reported to be starting from 2 April this year. However, platform and track work at Esplanade that will close the line north of St John’s Road is only due to end the day before: with the line’s record on engineering works, we shall see.
Reopening of the pier is due before the end of spring, but that could be defined as the end of May. But nobody will be surprised if rumours that it will actually be June (or…) turn out to be true.
Reopening of the pier is due before the end of spring, but that could be defined as the end of May. But nobody will be surprised if rumours that it will actually be June (or…) turn out to be true.
hermit
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Gossip on the train says that the pier project is running late. There appears to be a lot of work still to do - for instance, when I walked up the pier last week the new supports for the track by the platform didn‘t look to be in place.
The contractors have been lucky with the weather - there have been fewer strong winds than might have been expected in winter. But even so it’s a very challenging project in a difficult environment.
The contractors have been lucky with the weather - there have been fewer strong winds than might have been expected in winter. But even so it’s a very challenging project in a difficult environment.
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