Is this a bit too close? or Normal?

[tra1nsp0tter]

Hi all, I came across this video tonight & upon viewing it, it seems (to me anyway) that the people were a bit too close to the train as it went past.

Is this normal when working on the railway? I thought that you had to be at least 2ft away from a running line?

or am I wrong?

Here is the Video in question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6KS_KtZEkk

[youtube]n6KS_KtZEkk[/youtube]

 

[Tomnick]

They're a lot more than 2' from the nearest rail - though that'd be really close! Below 100mph (or is it 100mph and below?) the minimum distance is 4'.

 

[IanXC]

"You are in a position of safety if you are at least 2 metres (6 feet 6 inches) from the nearest line on which a train may approach. If the speed limit of the line is no more than 100mph, the distance is reduced to 1.25 metres (4 feet)". (Source: Network Rail).

 

[455driver]

Its fine although they could have stopped fidgeting a bit sooner.

 

[PermitToTravel]

They're a lot more than 2' from the nearest rail - though that'd be really close! Below 100mph (or is it 100mph and below?) the minimum distance is 4'.

At 2 feet surely they would have collided with the train?

 

[455driver]

4 ft is the minimum distance from the rail (6ft 6in above 100mph) which meansd they would only have to be about 2 ft from the side of the train.

 

[Tomnick]

At 2 feet surely they would have collided with the train?

If there wasn't contact between the two, there wouldn't be much more than the thickness of a coat of paint in it!

 

[Jones]

Filming the event is probably the biggest issue.

Aren't phones supposed to only be used in safe areas?

 

[PermitToTravel]

Maybe he brought a camera with him for a spot of photting

 

[455driver]

Filming the event is probably the biggest issue.

Aren't phones supposed to only be used in safe areas?

But he is in a position of safety isnt he?

I have had several NR chaps on track patrols taking pictures of my train, cant see why as they would basically be head on shots but each to their own.

 

[Jones]

But he is in a position of safety isnt he?

I have had several NR chaps on track patrols taking pictures of my train, cant see why as they would basically be head on shots but each to their own.

To make a call maybe, but to film?

 

[455driver]

To make a call maybe, but to film?

At least filming the train he is looking at it, anyway there isnt any difference he is either in a position of safety or he isnt and in that clip he is so I dont understand the point you are trying to make!

There was a thread on here last year where somebody was shocked that a driver was stood up when he was driving the train! :roll:

Some things look a lot worse than they actually are, plus of course some things which look quite innocent can be quite dangerous.

 

[Jones]

At least filming the train he is looking at it, anyway there isnt any difference he is either in a position of safety or he isnt and in that clip he is so I dont understand the point you are trying to make!

There was a thread on here last year where somebody was shocked that a driver was stood up when he was driving the train! :roll:

Dont go trying to make something out to be more than it is!

Not trying to make anything out of this. My point is most people look at their phone when filming and they could easily misjudge their position relative to the track.

That is all.

 

[eMeS]

Filming from the platform (safely I hope!), I've noticed much more draught from a fast goods train than Pendolinos. I think the worst may be fast moving container trains where not all wagons have a container loaded. The gap in the line of containers may increase the suction effect, and if drawn in, the next container could be a real hammer blow!

 

[455driver]

Not trying to make anything out of this. My point is most people look at their phone when filming and they could easily misjudge their position relative to the track.

That is all.

Reading back, that last bit of my post comes across as a bit sharp and I apologise for it, it wasnt meant to read like that.
I have edited it out.

 

[Jones]

No offence taken, robustness is good.

 

[tsr]

As a small side note, this video shows a close-up example of why it is important to ensure you have secured your hi-vis jacket/vest when on or near the line, and why you must never, ever, ever leave things in a position where they could snag on a train! I know this simple point is/should be already actively taught by competent professionals, but it goes to show the meaning of it quite well.

 

[t o m]

Try this for a near miss. If you're in a rush skip the video to the last 15 seconds.

http://youtu.be/oD0Js80twwA