Is it still the case the diagramming on XC doesn't differentiate between 4/5 car sets?

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Is it still the case the diagramming on XC doesn't differentiate between 4/5 car sets?

 

[Waterlemon]

Is it still the case the diagramming on XC doesn't differentiate between 4/5 car sets?

pretty much but they wont plan a 10 car to run in service

 

[sprinterguy]

Is it still the case the diagramming on XC doesn't differentiate between 4/5 car sets?

There have always been set 4 and 5-car diagrams. What happens in practice is that sets get transposed at times as a result of disruption and other on the day operational changes.

 

[yorkie]

Is it still the case the diagramming on XC doesn't differentiate between 4/5 car sets?

There may be some which are quite variable and of course swaps will be unavoidable at times, but there is definitely a plan, for example a 5-car set via Doncaster is very rare in my experience, with the vast majority of those running via Leeds booked for 5-cars.

 

[class 9]

There have always been set 4 and 5-car diagrams. What happens in practice is that sets get transposed at times as a result of disruption and other on the day operational changes.

Traincrew diagrams don't, they either say 'VOY' or 'VOYx2'.

 

[sprinterguy]

Traincrew diagrams don't, they either say 'VOY' or 'VOYx2'.

True, but the unit diagrams certainly differentiate between 4 and 5-car. Every diagram is planned to be one or the other.

 

[Snow1964]

pretty much but they wont plan a 10 car to run in service

Although pairs of 221s making 10 car do occasionally turn up, eg yesterdays 1V58 Edinburgh - Plymouth (with single unit continuing to Penzance)

Realtime Trains | 1V58 1003 Edinburgh to Penzance | 19/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 1V58 1003 departure from Edinburgh to Penzance on 19/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Just to demonstrate the inconsistency of allocation, the following working 2 hours later, was just 4cars.

 

[Trainbuff]

Although pairs of 221s making 10 car do occasionally turn up, eg yesterdays 1V58 Edinburgh - Plymouth (with single unit continuing to Penzance)

Realtime Trains | 1V58 1003 Edinburgh to Penzance | 19/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 1V58 1003 departure from Edinburgh to Penzance on 19/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Just to demonstrate the inconsistency of allocation, the following working 2 hours later, was just 4cars.

And tonight 1V58 was 2x 4 car