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Is Harrow On Hill station a fully barriered?
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RJ
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Yes, there are barriers at both exits. If you're going there to take photographs then you need a permit from London Underground first.
causton
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*both* exits? There are two exits I guess, one towards the shopping centre + bus station and one towards Whitehall Road, but you can walk straight through from the shopping centre to Whitehall Road without touching the barriers! Unless there's another exit somewhere... there is only one gateline IIRC - after the two exits/entrances converge 
Peter Mugridge
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You can indeed walk though from one side to the other without passing barriers; the barrier line is sideways on to the footbridge / passage at the platform entraces.
For photography, yes you do need a permit ( £40 for 30 days ) to use the station, but as one of the supervisors pointed out you do not need a permit to photograph from the nearby bridges; the one with the best view is about a 4 - 5 minute walk from the station.
As you come out up from the platforms, use the exit to your left ( past the toilets and down the stairsthen past a car park ); turn right at the end of the road and just keep walking, stay on the right hand pavement. It's the first bridge you come to.
Unfortunately it's a main road bridge so you can only cover one direction at a time, but it is an excellent viewpoint. Please excuse the poor quality of this picture; it was done with a rather unsatisfactory automatic compact while my SLR was in for repair recently.
For photography, yes you do need a permit ( £40 for 30 days ) to use the station, but as one of the supervisors pointed out you do not need a permit to photograph from the nearby bridges; the one with the best view is about a 4 - 5 minute walk from the station.
As you come out up from the platforms, use the exit to your left ( past the toilets and down the stairsthen past a car park ); turn right at the end of the road and just keep walking, stay on the right hand pavement. It's the first bridge you come to.
Unfortunately it's a main road bridge so you can only cover one direction at a time, but it is an excellent viewpoint. Please excuse the poor quality of this picture; it was done with a rather unsatisfactory automatic compact while my SLR was in for repair recently.
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TheJRB
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When I went to Harrow-on-the-Hill, I took a few photos without permit, but I was passing through (from the Met to Chiltern) and so didn't touch a barrier. I always thought LU didn't mind people taking the odd photo en route (I can imagine a lot of tourists do that never mind enthusiasts!) I've done the same thing at other stations and while it might not be the 'right' thing to do and I wouldn't recommend it, I've never had any trouble that way (i.e. get off one train, spend about ten minutes at the station and hop on another train). Bear in mind my photography is casual and non-commercial.
causton
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TfL once had this on their website:
Unfortunately the page they quote that from seems to have disappeared - but it seems to be the official word.
As long as there's no flash, tripods, going out of the public areas, interfering with anything/anyone, or staying there for an excessive amount of time... a few snaps and off again is fine
from District Dave's Forum
Unfortunately the page they quote that from seems to have disappeared - but it seems to be the official word.
As long as there's no flash, tripods, going out of the public areas, interfering with anything/anyone, or staying there for an excessive amount of time... a few snaps and off again is fine
Peter Mugridge
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It's called the "passing through" rule and it does appear in the Traffic Circulars ( the Underground equivalent of the Weekly Operating Notices ) every now and again.
The 10 - 15 minutes thing is generally to cover "one cycle of departures", in other words the maximum time anyone would normally have reason to remain on the station for.
The 10 - 15 minutes thing is generally to cover "one cycle of departures", in other words the maximum time anyone would normally have reason to remain on the station for.
ChrisCooper
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I always though the rule was that private photography was fine, commercial photography needed a permit. Never heard of this "10-15min" rule before.
Peter Mugridge
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Scroll down to "Student or non-professional permit"
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/5225.aspx
If you're going to apply for one, don't be put off by the price. It basically guarantees you 30 days of hours of hassle free photography. You won't have any problems getting an application for enthusiast photography through - they're very efficient at processing them and are used to enthusiasts.
No supervisor has ever refused me when I turn up with a permit and ask.
One other point.... given the weather at this time of year, unless you're planning on high ASA images in the tunnel stations, I'd suggest waiting until the spring to get the best value out of it.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/5225.aspx
If you're going to apply for one, don't be put off by the price. It basically guarantees you 30 days of hours of hassle free photography. You won't have any problems getting an application for enthusiast photography through - they're very efficient at processing them and are used to enthusiasts.
No supervisor has ever refused me when I turn up with a permit and ask.
One other point.... given the weather at this time of year, unless you're planning on high ASA images in the tunnel stations, I'd suggest waiting until the spring to get the best value out of it.
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