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Start saving, and ensure you buy the correct ticket. And make sure you keep checking your post for the let
So you were thinking of forging a Railcard?
Really stupid idea.
No I was going to buy a railcard. I’ve bought a 16-25 railcard right now

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Start saving, and ensure you buy the correct ticket. And make sure you keep checking your post for the letter.
In terms of how much you think they’d charge me you got any idea as the booking history only goes for the past 2 weeks as before that I was using my little cousins Oyster card but I wasn’t caught with it and returned it to my little cousin
 
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John R

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Well you know how many times you have done it since you stopped using the Oyster card. Take the Anytime Single fare, multiply it by the number of individual journeys (so twice for a return) and then add £150 for administration costs. You won’t be far off the answer then if they choose to look at your online history.
 

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No I was going to buy a railcard. I’ve bought a 16-25 railcard right now

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That’s a good move. You can tell them in due course. It’s something that shows you’ve changed your ways and taken steps to legitimise your tickets.
Thanks for clarifying
 

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If you actually meant you were thinking of buying one, that would be an excellent idea. You could make a note of the Railcard’s number and quote it in your letter of apology as evidence you are aware of the seriousness of your previous actions and that you intend paying for ALL of your journey in future, with a legitimate discount applied.
 
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You don’t think they’d investigate me borrowing my little cousins Oyster card although I returned it 2 weeks ago and didn’t get caught with it?

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If you actually meant you were thinking of buying one, that would be an excellent idea. You could make a note of the Railcard’s number and quote it in your letter of apology as evidence you are aware of the seriousness of your previous actions and that you intend paying for ALL of your journey in future, with a legitimate discount applied.
I have bought the railway card and I’m using it today on the way to work. Hopefully SWR don’t prosecute me and allow me to pay the off court settlement as I’m changing my ways
 

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You don’t think they’d investigate me borrowing my little cousins Oyster card although I returned it 2 weeks ago and didn’t get caught with it?
They're unlikely to look at your Oyster Card use - but we can't be certain that they won't.

In any case, you've already used the Oyster Card, so there's nothing you can do about it right now. When the railway write to you, read the letter very carefully (and it could be a good idea to share it with us, making sure you have hidden your name and personal details) and that will let you know whether you need to worry about the Oyster Card.
 

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You don’t think they’d investigate me borrowing my little cousins Oyster card although I returned it 2 weeks ago and didn’t get caught with it?

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I have bought the railway card and I’m using it today on the way to work. Hopefully SWR don’t prosecute me and allow me to pay the off court settlement as I’m changing my ways
Dont forget there is a minimum fare of £12 restriction on the 16-25 railcard before 10am, so if you are travelling before then, you need to be careful.
 

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Dont forget there is a minimum fare of £12 restriction on the 16-25 railcard before 10am, so if you are travelling before then, you need to be careful.
Also, no-one reminds you when the Railcard expires, so make a note on your phone to renew it just before it expires.
 
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They're unlikely to look at your Oyster Card use - but we can't be certain that they won't.

In any case, you've already used the Oyster Card, so there's nothing you can do about it right now. When the railway write to you, read the letter very carefully (and it could be a good idea to share it with us, making sure you have hidden your name and personal details) and that will let you know whether you need to worry about the Oyster Card.
This situation occurred on Sunday so do you have a rough approximate as to when they’ll send the letter?

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Alright I’ve booked a 1 year travel card so will note it down the day it expires. Moreover the situation occured on Sunday so do you think the letter will arrive this week?
 
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John R

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Unlikely to be this week. They have a lot of fare dodgers to work through, and they will do so in order, so you just have to wait until they reach your case. Could be weeks, could be months. But should be less than 6 months, as that is the time limitation to start prosecution proceedings against you if you don't cooperate.
 

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Do you think they are just going to offer the out of court settlement for me?

At the risk of repeating what has already been said, provided you cooperate they should offer you a settlement. Usually they want to hear from you first, but we do see instances where the initial letter includes a settlement offer.
 

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Alright I’ve booked a 1 year travel card so will note it down the day it expires. Moreover the situation occured on Sunday so do you think the letter will arrive this week?
A 1 year travelcard is not a railcard. Try and be sure which you mean. Your saga is difficult to understand, because your title refers to an ‘invalid railcard’, but your answers suggest you didn’t have a railcard at all.

We’d normally use invalid to mean you held a railcard but it had expired.

You don’t seem to have ever explained what ticket you bought from Trainline on the day you were caught.

Was it an e-ticket?

Did it need printing, in which case you’d be treated as not having a ticket at all, and anything to do with railcards is irrelevant.
 
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A 1 year travelcard is not a railcard. Try and be sure which you mean. Your saga is difficult to understand, because your title refers to an ‘invalid railcard’, but your answers suggest you didn’t have a railcard at all.

We’d normally use invalid to mean you held a railcard but it had expired.

You don’t seem to have ever explained what ticket you bought from Trainline on the day you were caught.

Was it an e-ticket?

Did it need printing, in which case you’d be treated as not having a ticket at all, and anything to do with railcards is irrelevant.
It was an e ticket from Vauxhall to Waterloo
 

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It was an e ticket from Vauxhall to Waterloo
Both a short ticket and not having a railcard then. You don't usually get credit for what's already been paid, so if they ask for an out of court settlement it would be based on the undiscounted anytime fares from wherever they think or you admit to travelling from.
 

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