Invalid Railcard and Edited Ticket

[poeticbadger]

You are not in a strong position to debate that with them...

Hi, just to say I wasn’t meaning I would argue that I need the railcard discount or be in a position to argue.

More so that I am questioning am I going to get lambasted for effectively having committed 2 offences on the same journey

Also was another message deleted ?

 

[Haywain]

Please relax until you get a letter. Nothing is achieved by trying to analyse every possibility to the nth degree. Once you have a letter you will be able to get good advice on how to respond. In the meantime, wait and stop trying to overthink everything.

 

[Spaceship323]

Also was another message deleted ?

Probably just awaiting moderator approval, may take a while to show up

 

[WesternLancer]

Hi, just to say I wasn’t meaning I would argue that I need the railcard discount or be in a position to argue.

More so that I am questioning am I going to get lambasted for effectively having committed 2 offences on the same journey

Also was another message deleted ?

Hard to tell - I don't think it makes it more likely they will prosecute just because you have committed more than one offence.

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Please relax until you get a letter. Nothing is achieved by trying to analyse every possibility to the nth degree. Once you have a letter you will be able to get good advice on how to respond. In the meantime, wait and stop trying to overthink everything.

This is very good advice.

 

[poeticbadger]

Hi all

Letter received , fine of the full ticket plus admin charge total cost £153.50

Lesson learned , don’t mess with your train tickets. Thanks to all who responded

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Hard to tell - I don't think it makes it more likely they will prosecute just because you have committed more than one offence.

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This is very good advice.

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letter above. Just want to double check - this means that if I pay this then the matter will be closed ? I am paying it as we speak

 

[Trainman40083]

Hi all

Letter received , fine of the full ticket plus admin charge total cost £153.50

Lesson learned , don’t mess with your train tickets. Thanks to all who responded

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letter above. Just want to double check - this means that if I pay this then the matter will be closed ? I am paying it as we speak

It should do. But keep a record of that payment

 

[gray1404]

I would advise you to pay up. However you still haven't said what ticket type the original ticket was?

 

[poeticbadger]

I would advise you to pay up. However you still haven't said what ticket type the original ticket was?

Advanced single. Of course I will be paying it that isn’t a question. I am simply asking if this means the matter will be settled or if there will be further legal proceedings.

 

[WesternLancer]

Hi all

Letter received , fine of the full ticket plus admin charge total cost £153.50


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letter above. Just want to double check - this means that if I pay this then the matter will be closed ? I am paying it as we speak

Yes, assuming you have no mitigating circumstances to offer (I can't see that you have based on things you mentioned originally) then they are saying you can resolve the matter by paying the sum demanded.

Obviously keep proof of payment, and keep copies of all the paperwork associated with this safe in case you need to refer back to it (which hopefully you won't)- you need to keep that long term - over a year and possibly a bit over 6 years.

Just to note, it's not technically a fine - it's the cost of the full priced ticket to replace the one that was not valid, plus their admin. But I think you almost certainly realise that.

 

[poeticbadger]

Advanced single

Yes, assuming you have no mitigating circumstances to offer (I can't see that you have based on things you mentioned originally) then they are saying you can resolve the matter by paying the sum demanded.

Obviously keep proof of payment, and keep copies of all the paperwork associated with this safe in case you need to refer back to it (which hopefully you won't)- you need to keep that long term - over a year and possibly a bit over 6 years.

Just to note, it's not technically a fine - it's the cost of the full priced ticket to replace the one that was not valid, plus their admin. But I think you almost certainly realise that.

Of course , just semantics with the term fine on my part there. I know it’s admin plus ticket fee.

I’ll keep records and payment info.

No mitigating circs other than feeling sick on the day of travel but I won’t be arguing that with them.

 

[WesternLancer]

No mitigating circs other than feeling sick on the day of travel but I won’t be arguing that with them.

Yes, probably not a good idea under the circumstances.

 

[poeticbadger]

Yes, probably not a good idea under the circumstances.

Nope , I agree

Thanks for all of the advice etc. Will go pay the settlement now and hope I don’t hear any more