cactustwirly
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When is Dover doing it for everyone. Is it new years day?
Sometime in 2026
When is Dover doing it for everyone. Is it new years day?
I’d hoped (vainly) that Bremen would already be up and running earlier this month so Ivcould do it all in a language I’m fluent in, but no such luck. Just hope that Bologna in May is fairly quiet!I'm trying, and currently failing, to pick a small EU airport to fly to which won't be busy and I can "get it done" - thought of flying LCY to Rotterdam; however what worries me is this summer, even if I've been processed, it will still take hours to get through the queues at places like Malaga, Ibiza, Palma etc..
Because of medical issues, I might see if I can get assistance - never even considered that before.
I can report that Venice was very easy. The registration kiosks ask you questions about why you are coming to Italy and what you are bringing, so I can't see how you could "get it done" as you'd need to answer the questions every time unless they force everyone to do it on a website/app in advance or be denied boarding.I'm trying, and currently failing, to pick a small EU airport to fly to which won't be busy and I can "get it done" - thought of flying LCY to Rotterdam; however what worries me is this summer, even if I've been processed, it will still take hours to get through the queues at places like Malaga, Ibiza, Palma etc..
Because of medical issues, I might see if I can get assistance - never even considered that before.
Interesting point, maybe when it all settles down - if ever (!) - then everyone will simply slide their passport and give their prints, and get the green light but some may be randomly chosen for questioning? Otherwise it won't make one scrap of difference time wise - except to make things slower, for everyone, every time.I can report that Venice was very easy. The registration kiosks ask you questions about why you are coming to Italy and what you are bringing, so I can't see how you could "get it done" as you'd need to answer the questions every time unless they force everyone to do it on a website/app in advance or be denied boarding.
No, because it's being in the EEA which confers freedom of movementDo any countries inside the EEA but outside Schengen have to go through all this (bios/fingerprints/date checking) to enter Schengen? Thinking Norway, Iceland etc?
Thought so; in which case the UK public need to demand we are treated the same, either by joining the EEA (Single Market) or some kind of recriprocal agreement with the EU/EEA r/e travellers/tourists. In the end it would be better for the EU financially as folks like me will simply not go to avoid all this.No, because it's being in the EEA which confers freedom of movement
Norway and Iceland are inside the EEA, but they are not outside Schengen. Passengers of whatever nationality arriving at another Schengen country from Norway or Iceland, and vice-versa, are not subject to routine passport checks. Passengers whose passports were issued by an EEA country such as Norway or Iceland, or an EEA non-Schengen country such as Cyprus or Ireland, who arrive at a Schengen country from a non-Schengen country, pass through the "EU EEA CH" passport queues where provided, and are not subject to the Entry Exit System.Do any countries inside the EEA but outside Schengen have to go through all this (bios/fingerprints/date checking) to enter Schengen? Thinking Norway, Iceland etc?
In this case, is it true that for already registered EES people, the EES stuff is done inside the Egate?On arrival at Naples the other day there was a sign directing EU/Schengen country passport holders and already EES registered passport holders to e gates. With a UK passport I was directed to a specific e gate followed by a passport stamp.
Hmm but where do they collect the answers to the questions at? Surely this won't be done at the egate itself? Or are they not going to bother with that and just ask the questions on first registration?The regulations require biometrics to be collected under the supervision of a border guard.
In theory once collected the e-gates should be the only necessary stop on subsequent trips and they verify image or fingerprints, but it does not seem to be working out that way in practice.
Yes this is what I'm confused about. I assume so as all the airports seem to have put in new egates so I would assume they have the capability...In this case, is it true that for already registered EES people, the EES stuff is done inside the Egate?
Well one of the questions I was asked at the kiosk was "how much cash are you carrying now?", so it would have to be re-answered every time. It didn't seem possible to be asked questions at the e-gate itself. Also the e-gate had a screen showing when the 90 days in Schengen would be up (presumably it should eventually take into account other recent trips too since it's not 90 days on each entry).Hmm but where do they collect the answers to the questions at? Surely this won't be done at the egate itself? Or are they not going to bother with that and just ask the questions on first registration?
In this case, is it true that for already registered EES people, the EES stuff is done inside the Egate?
That has been known to happen if a border guard is suspicious about a passenger, but for fairly obvious reasons cannot be done systematically.Surely the question on cash carrying needs to be sorted out for obvious reasons. Are they seriously going to take passengers to a cash machine so as to prove they have sufficient funds for the trip if they only admit to having a few €s in readies?
What question about cash? The only question we were asked at Kuusamo was how many days we were staying for. No mention of having re-mortgaged tye house to pay for our drinks in our hotel.Surely the question on cash carrying needs to be sorted out for obvious reasons. Are they seriously going to take passengers to a cash machine so as to prove they have sufficient funds for the trip if they only admit to having a few €s in readies?
Well there was another question about whether you have bank cards, so it's not like they assume everyone should bring enough cash for your stay.Surely the question on cash carrying needs to be sorted out for obvious reasons. Are they seriously going to take passengers to a cash machine so as to prove they have sufficient funds for the trip if they only admit to having a few €s in readies?
The question about cash that the kiosk in Italy asked me - but as we have seen every Schengen country is implementing this differently.What question about cash? The only question we were asked at Kuusamo was how many days we were staying for. No mention of having re-mortgaged tye house to pay for our drinks in our hotel.
You have to ask what this all actually achieves apart from making life difficult for law-abiding citizens.Mind you, if it gets to that stage, a much larger % of the UK population than even now will be demanding a prompt return to the EU (and maybe even join Schengen!!) to avoid all this; and we haven't even started with the ETIAS.
You have to ask what this all actually achieves apart from making life difficult for law-abiding citizens.
People these days don't complain enough.
I don't doubt that the real wrong'uns just find ways to slip in and out of countries undetected anyway.
Under the old and interim systems sometimes I was not asked any questions at all. About 3 out of 4 times on entry I'm asked what the purpose of my trip is and how long I will be staying.Hmm but where do they collect the answers to the questions at? Surely this won't be done at the egate itself? Or are they not going to bother with that and just ask the questions on first registration?
Again this varies by country. For me since Brexit:Under the old and interim systems sometimes I was not asked any questions at all. About 3 out of 4 times on entry I'm asked what the purpose of my trip is and how long I will be staying.
(even allowing that CI's aren't in the UK but they abide by "our" immigration laws)
I thought "getting it done" was a one off event but this has unfortunately not been my experience.I'm trying, and currently failing, to pick a small EU airport to fly to which won't be busy and I can "get it done" - thought of flying LCY to Rotterdam; however what worries me is this summer, even if I've been processed, it will still take hours to get through the queues at places like Malaga, Ibiza, Palma etc..
Because of medical issues, I might see if I can get assistance - never even considered that before.