Information/Advice needed on an incident

[Luxzy101]

Hi,

I need clarification on something if anyone can help. About a couple years ago (2013) I was stopped for not having the right amount on my Oyster Card for a journey, I was advised to get a solicitor involved after they didn't except the grounds I stated on why I didn't have enough money on my Oyster card. Anyway to cut a long story short, They dropped the case after I got the solicitors involved, and I never got prosecuted/went to court for this (I have this in a correspondence from TFL to clarify that they dropped the case)

My question is, when I first got stopped by the Officer at the station he started to say that speech that Police officers use when you're about to get arrested (You don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defense etc etc). I really can't remember if he said "I'm arresting you", because he said it so fast. He then done what is called as a 'Pace Interview' on the spot. What I want to know is, does this class as an official arrest? Do they have the power to say that etc. I don't have a criminal record, I've never been arrested in my life, but I'm not sure if this counts as an arrest or not, because he's not an police officer..

I'm only asking, because I've applied for a job interview, and was just wondering would this incident come up, even though I never got prosecuted, and never went to court over it.

Any advice/knowledge on this would be really helpful!

Thanks

 

[CheesyChips]

No you weren't arrested. The caution being read out to you does not depend on a person being in custody, it's standard procedure when taking information from somebody that may later be used against them in a criminal trial.

It should be said also that being 'officially' arrested means absolutely nothing in terms of guilt, thousands of people are arrested every day and then subsequently released with no further action.

 

[bb21]

If the case were dropped then you have nothing to worry about. You'd know if you were arrested, as you would have lost your liberty for a period of time.

Otherwise nothing to declare, assuming that you have not been in trouble otherwise.

 

[island]

It should be said also that being 'officially' arrested means absolutely nothing in terms of guilt, thousands of people are arrested every day and then subsequently released with no further action.

Whilst that is true, it does render someone ineligible to use the US Visa Waiver Program, amongst other things.

 

[miami]

Whilst that is true, it does render someone ineligible to use the US Visa Waiver Program, amongst other things.

Not always, even not often.

The question you have to answer is
"Have you ever been arrested or convicted for a crime that resulted in serious damage to property, or serious harm to another person or government authority?"

Specifically

This question refers to crimes involving moral turpitude - Such offenses generally involve conduct which is inherently base, vile, or depraved and contrary to the accepted rules of morality and the duties owed to persons or society in general. There are factors, such as the age of the offender or the date of the offense that may affect whether an offense will be considered a crime involving moral turpitude for purposes of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

 

[island]

That's changed since I filled in the form then. It used to ask about any arrests.

 

[GingerRH]

You were stopped by a Revenue protection inspector then. Revenue inspectors are trained in court stuff (cant remember the correct name) and have special licences etc. You were formally cautioned, meaning that anything you said can be used against you if used in court, you weren't under arrest and were free to leave at any time. People are usually invited for a second interview where the offender is allowed to bring a solicitor as this is usually where you have the chance to own up and say you part before either going to court or settling outside of court.

 

[swt_passenger]

You were stopped by a Revenue protection inspector then. Revenue inspectors are trained in court stuff (cant remember the correct name)...

You are probably thinking of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act - referred to generally as 'PACE', as in someone being "questioned or interviewed under PACE rules".