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Inequality between generations

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I think we’re about 5 years off the first mass write-off. Plan 1 (1998-2011) are written off after age 65, or 25 years after graduation (post 2006).

It's written off after 25 years based on the April after you graduate, but the Sept 1 2006 thing is based on when you first got your loan.

So the first big group to get it written off will have studied Sep 2006 to summer 2009. Repayments would have began April 2010. Twenty five years from that means they get written off April 2035.
Quite a while yet.

Those who got their first loan before Sep 1 2006 will have to wait until 65 to get it written off.
 
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William Hague getting involved in this again today:

Those in their sixties . . . we are the luckiest generation that has ever lived … partly because we’ve lived through this period where all the house prices went up . . . we still got defined benefit pension schemes . . . and we went to university before student loans,’ said former Conservative leader Lord William Hague as he called for a ‘national conversation’ about student loans and the bleak jobs market.

 

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No mention of what his idol Thatcher did to the supply of affordable social housing then.
Indeed, no accountability from himself at all, including him voting for trebling tuition fees for example.
 

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William Hague is stating the obvious, but I always felt it hypocritical that people who benefitted from no student loans then went and voted for them. It’s also the wisdom of hindsight; I knew him slightly at university and I have defined benefit pensions, own my own home, etc. but the reasons are complex. Companies offered DB pensions to attract employees and wanted to be seen as “good citizens” whereas now they don’t seem to care one jot. And Gordon Brown helped kill DB pensions, followed by the companies themselves.

We now have 3 times the percentage of 18 year olds going to university, this was a political decision. I don’t know if it’s a good outcome but I feel that it is.

Back in 1979 we didn’t know about house price rises either, my first house purchase was a big step to take although anyone would probably laugh now at the idea of a £24,000 mortgage.

Clearly there needs to be a sensible discussion about student loans today, but making silly promises in opposition (Badenoch) which will never come to anything isn’t helping.
 
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From https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-outside-of-london.299238/page-7#post-7741522

A proper progressive national tax regime (and especially property and wealth taxes) would go a long way to providing what is needed to keep our cities clean and healthy, also more passengers flowing on public transport, which should be the default in all conurbations.
I don't think it sits within the original thread, but it seems reasonable here. Is it possible to explain a little more about what a 'proper progressive national tax regime' would look like, and how it would best manage intergenerational fairness between people. Is it just something that would affect high wealth? Would it also redistribute money around the country?
 
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