Incident at Malton...

[G0ORC]

Car driver has died, apparently

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-27306152

Malton rail level crossing crash victim, 77, dies

A 77-year-old man died when his car was struck by a train at a rural level crossing in North Yorkshire.

The crash happened at about 09:15 BST at Ivy Lea rail crossing in Scampston, near Malton, British Transport Police said.

No passengers were injured but the train driver is being treated for shock.

Network Rail has confirmed to BBC Radio York it is "in discussions" with the landowner to close the crossing.

The train involved was the 08:48 Scarborough-to-Liverpool Lime Street TransPennine Express Service.

Services delayed

A British Transport Police representative said: "Sadly, the driver of the car, who is believed to be a 77-year-old local man, has died."


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[ushawk]

Lots of information and pictures on a Twitter account of a passenger on board here - https://twitter.com/yorkarchaeology

accident happened on a farmers crossing over line not on level crossing on road

it's interesting different reactions of passengers those on affected train quiet introspective those on scarbro bound train joking laughing

TPExpress train staff and emergency services have been brilliant - calm informative reassuring, very impressive response

very calm on train people phoning rearranging their day police & fire reassuring everyone doctor will be on train shortly

 

[crispy1978]

I travel that line quite a lot - so a fair idea where the incident occurred from looking at the pictures.

A very sad state of affairs. RIP to the driver, and condolences to his family. Also, thoughts with the staff and passengers of the train, and particularly the driver - to experience something like that must be indescribable.
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Sounds like it was on a "farmers crossing" as opposed to a road crossing.

 

[talltim]

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/low+more+YO17+8N/@54.1693461,-0.7009218,439m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

[ash39]

Sounds like the incident was dealt with very well by TPE and the emergency services. The twitter user states that they moved passengers on by lining up another unit and transferring people on ramps for onward travel. Presumably, the unit involved did not derail and the car wasn't obstructing the other line.

Still, sad news for the family of the driver. RIP

 

[talltim]

Better photos http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...its-car-on-level-crossing-at-malton-1-6601595

 

[jopsuk]

shows a certain added value to trains carrying wheelchair ramps (as opposed to them being station equipment)

 

[Zoidberg]

shows a certain added value to trains carrying wheelchair ramps (as opposed to them being station equipment)

I wonder at the value of that. Given their length, even if they reached the ground, it'd be an impractical slope down which to wheel someone.

Or do you mean for use, on the level, between trains? Do not all trains carry suitable inter-train bridges?

 

[DarloRich]

I wonder at the value of that. Given their length, even if they reached the ground, it'd be an impractical slope down which to wheel someone.

Or do you mean for use, on the level, between trains? Do not all trains carry suitable inter-train bridges?

Yes: A wheel chair ramp!

 

[jopsuk]

There are pictures on the twitter feed linked to by ushawk showing the wheelchair ramp in action as an inter-train bridge. But not all trains carry a ramp.

 

[DarloRich]

There are pictures on the twitter feed linked to by ushawk showing the wheelchair ramp in action as an inter-train bridge. But not all trains carry a ramp.

do they not? I thought they did

 

[Zoidberg]

There are pictures on the twitter feed linked to by ushawk showing the wheelchair ramp in action as an inter-train bridge. But not all trains carry a ramp.

Ah, thank you. I understand now. Sorry for appearing a bit dense.

 

[crispy1978]

From the link posted by talltim:

Another passenger, who did not want to be named, said: “It was a full train and we didn’t really know what happened. The police have tried to keep us all there but I’ve walked off. I couldn’t stay.

“I saw the car door hanging off the front carriage but that’s all.”

It must be a good 15-20 minute walk down the track to Rillington to be able to catch a Coastliner bus - seems a little bit strange.

 

[Searle]

From the link posted by talltim:

Another passenger, who did not want to be named, said: “It was a full train and we didn’t really know what happened. The police have tried to keep us all there but I’ve walked off. I couldn’t stay.

“I saw the car door hanging off the front carriage but that’s all.”

It must be a good 15-20 minute walk down the track to Rillington to be able to catch a Coastliner bus - seems a little bit strange.

Considering the people who stayed on the train didn't move for two hours, it was a pretty good decision actually (that's supposing he didn't literally walk along the track which is a very bad decision!)

 

[Starmill]

I believe there is an actual thing called a Transboardment Bridge as well - but I assume these aren't carried onboard trains.

No need for anybody to feel dense!

 

[34D]

Car driver was in his late 70s according to a source elsewhere.

I believe it was a public level crossing (Barton Hill).

 

[AndyPJG]

Car driver was in his late 70s according to a source elsewhere.

I believe it was a public level crossing (Barton Hill).

Reports from BTP is that it's at Ivy Lea crossing, which is a private UWC (User Worked Crossing).

 

[Starmill]

Car driver was in his late 70s according to a source elsewhere.

I believe it was a public level crossing (Barton Hill).

Indeed? Atlas says Barton Mill (MCB) is 11m48ch. Malton Station is 21m12ch.

 

[34D]

The source elsewhere must be wrong. I shall strikethrough my earlier message.

 

[Starmill]

Reports from BTP is that it's at Ivy Lea crossing, which is a private UWC (User Worked Crossing).

If it is there, this crossing is missing from my map. Which is curious: lots of UWCs are listed.

 

[Zoidberg]

Car driver has died, apparently

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-27306152

Since this post was originally made, other photos have been added, The first indicates the force of the impact with part of the car's suspension quite a distance from the car itself.

Best wishes to the train driver who is reported as being treated for shock.

 

[talltim]

Crossing Information
Network Rail Crossing ID 5873
Crossing Type Private: User worked Crossing with Telephone
Line Speed 80 mph
Types of Trains Passenger
Trains per Day 34
Location
Latitude/Longitude 54.16939189,-0.70049819
OS Grid Reference SE849756
Nearest Postcode YO178JX
Parish Rillington
District Council Ryedale District Council
County Council North Yorkshire County Council
Country England
Risk Assessment
Last Assesment February 2011
Usage Notes

Infrequent Vehicle use
Infrequent Pedestrian Use

Key Risk Factors

Sun Glare
Low Sighting Time

Safety Features

Telephones provided for vehicle users
Gates
Signage

Individual Risk Rating* C
Collective Risk Rating* 8
Incident Probability Between 1 in 5,000 and 1 in 25,000
Predicted FWI* Per Year Between 0.00001 and 0.00005
Notes

Individual Risk Rating is the risk to invidual users of the crossing. It is presented as a single letter, with A being the highest risk and M being the lowest.
Collective Risk Rating is the overall risk of any incident involving any person or vehicle on the crossing, including train staff and passengers as well as users of the crossing. It is presented as a number, with 1 being the highest risk and 13 being the lowest. This is the most important rating when prioritising safety measures at level crossings.
FWI stands for Fatalities and Weighted Injuries: 1 Fatality = 10 Major Injuries = 100 Minor Injuries.

Train stopped about here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place....7047522,266m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

 

[crispy1978]

Car driver was in his late 70s according to a source elsewhere.

I believe it was a public level crossing (Barton Hill).

77 year old local man, working on a farm while its owners were away from the news reports I've seen.
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Trains seem to be running again http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y01137/2014/05/07/advanced

 

[ainsworth74]

Any word on the condition of the driver of the train? Hopefully they've not suffered any physical injury.

 

[crispy1978]

Any word on the condition of the driver of the train? Hopefully they've not suffered any physical injury.

News reports said he was being treated for shock, but that was a while ago when that was reported.

Goodness only knows how you would even begin to imagine how the driver is feeling right now.

 

[scotsman]

Most, if not all, units carry wheelchair ramps. Simply put, they're not station equipment, as a lot of stations are unstaffed or not staffed throughout the train service.

 

[Emyr]

There are pictures on the twitter feed linked to by ushawk showing the wheelchair ramp in action as an inter-train bridge. But not all trains carry a ramp.

Now included on the BBC article:

 

[ash39]

I'm interested to know how they'll move the unit involved. Considering the likely forces involved at 80mph, the cab and coupler facing the york direction will be damaged, possibly broken windscreen.

Does anyone know the unit involved?

 

[222001]

I'm interested to know how they'll move the unit involved. Considering the likely forces involved at 80mph, the cab and coupler facing the york direction will be damaged, possibly broken windscreen.

Does anyone know the unit involved?

185s are quite tough units and I imagine it might be possible just to drive it away when everything is secured - possibly with the front engine isolated if there is any damage under the front coach.
Unit involved is 185105.

 

[ash39]

Thanks 222001.

What's also interesting is the crossing info posted by talltim states low sighting time but looking at the map the line is very straight and no obvious oobstructions?

As a farm crossing I doubt anyone on here can confirm either way but seems strange