If the class 38 and 48 had gone ahead?

[Photohunter71]

Before the class 60 was settled upon,there was talk about a fleet of class 38's and 48's for BR.What would they have looked like?

 

[matchmaker]

Before the class 60 was settled upon,there was talk about a fleet of class 38's and 48's for BR.What would they have looked like?

There was a Class 48 - a Class 47 with a V12 engine rather than a twin bank. All were re-engined to become Class 47.

 

[sprinterguy]

There is an interesting conversation regarding the proposed class 38 on this blog here, that may shed some light on the subject:
http://class37basher.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/british-rail-class-38that-never-was.html

 

[90019]

Five class 48s existed, but they were just 47s with a different engine. They only lasted five or six years before being converted to 47s.

 

[The Citadel]

Might get 38's yet.

 

[sprinterguy]

Five class 48s existed, but they were just 47s with a different engine. They only lasted five or six years before being converted to 47s.

That's a completely different kettle of fish to the class 48 design that BR proposed in the late eighties though. I had previously heard that it was intended to be a passenger design, but would have been rendered fairly superfluous by "Sprinterisation" at any rate so I could be wrong there.

 

[Photohunter71]

Might get 38's yet.

I'd be interested as to why you think that is the case. I would have thought both projects were binned after the class 60 was chosen for freight and more DMU's were selected for passenger work.
The design which was mooted would have been interesting, so another Co-Co axle arrangement and slab end design. Class 48's may have been similar?

 

[Waldgrun]

Perhaps someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember that there was drawings of the proposed class 38 locos published in various magazines, and the front ends where very much like SNCF Class BB 15000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_BB_15000