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If BR carried out the APT Programme

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Helvellyn

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Interesting thoughts if a 60 strong fleet of APT-S had been built: -

  • Would the Mk 3B FOs/BFOs have been built? Likely not.
  • Mk 3A RFM conversions for "Cuisine 2000" catering? Possibly not as 28 Mk 3A RFBs would be more than enough for Anglia and CrossCountry services. HST TRUKs possibly rebuilt as loco-hauled Buffets for use with Mk 3A stock on CrossCountry services.
  • Mk 3B DVTs built? Possibly for use on Anglia, but maybe as a DBSO type vehicle (Think Irish Rail Mk 3 DBSOs).
  • Class 90s built? Likely not with 136 Class 86/87 locomotives to mop up parcels, freight and CrossCountry/Anglia passenger traffic.
  • Class 89 built? Likely not as ECML electrification would likely have used an APT variation (non-tilt).
 
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cjmillsnun

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If BR had carried out the APT Programme to the end, what would the railways like today and how many Class 370 would their be?

There would've been no 370s as that was the designation for the APT-P. The APT-S was to be different by being loco hauled or by having a power car on each end in the same manner as the HST. IIRC the power cars/loco would not tilt (very similar to the way the 91 if the Mk4s had been fitted with the tilt packs (they never were unfortunately)

They could well have been 371s (HSDT was 252, and HST was 253 and 254)
 
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