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SWT Driver

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Yes she went across against a red light, however I'd hardly call it a near miss, the train was still in the station.

I've seen far nearer!
 

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That was fine. I'd understand if the train was already moving, but that was perfectly safe. If she tripped, the train could have stopped easily.
 

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While I wouldn't say it was fine, it perhaps wasn't the greatest example of idiocy - she presumably knew the train was there, that it was stopped, and where it was coming from - and yes, the likelihood is the driver would have been able to stop the train, had she got stuck/tripped.

Having said, that, I wouldn't do it myself, just on a matter of principle.
 

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That was fine. I'd understand if the train was already moving, but that was perfectly safe. If she tripped, the train could have stopped easily.


She still abused the crossing and the signal for pedestrians said stop the instructions and law are very clear on the matter, the right of way was for the train. What bothers me more than your blaise attitude is that she didnt look both ways there could easily have been something coming the other a lot faster and she decided to not only risk her own life but also the life an innocent baby. <(
 

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That was fine. I'd understand if the train was already moving, but that was perfectly safe. If she tripped, the train could have stopped easily.

Having just seen your post in the ticket query forum - do you have any respect for railway rules at all?
 

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Not only did she risk her life and the child's, she must have given the driver a shock, and broken the law! So much for health and safety...
 

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That was fine. I'd understand if the train was already moving, but that was perfectly safe. If she tripped, the train could have stopped easily.

That one might have on this occasion but had a train been approaching from the other direction (watch the video - she didn't even look that way to check) I doubt you could say the same thing.

Either way, it's a really dumb thing to do. That's bad enough, but she also had a child with her.
 
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In a way I wish that a non stop train was coming the other way at full line speed. but then again an innocent child should not suffer for the parent/guardian's stupidity
 

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In a way I wish that a non stop train was coming the other way at full line speed. but then again an innocent child should not suffer for the parent/guardian's stupidity

That is a very odd thing to wish for. Even if the child wasnt there I wouldnt want anyone to grow up without a parent over such an idiotic mistake.

She clearly broke the rules (and is an idiot for doing so) but as SWT Driver says, it wasn't a "near miss"...though it was fairly close.

If anything though, it goes to reinforce the fact (and show) that trains can pick up some good speed in such short distances.
 

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If another train had been passing the one at the station, she wouldn't have stood a chance.
 

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Having just seen your post in the ticket query forum - do you have any respect for railway rules at all?

Trespassing, Vandalising/graffiti, other passengers' confort are some of the things I do respect. I would never trespass because I'm not stupid and I know what might happen. I would never do graffiti on a wall, let alone a train. It makes me rage when there are scratched windows on a new train. I NEVER play music through the loudspeaker of my phone, or harass other people travelling on a train.

So to answer your question, yes I do have respect for most rules, however ticket prices are probably the only thing which turns me off of buying one!
 

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So to answer your question, yes I do have respect for most rules, however ticket prices are probably the only thing which turns me off of buying one!

Then quite simply do not travel by train.
 

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In a way I wish that a non stop train was coming the other way at full line speed. but then again an innocent child should not suffer for the parent/guardian's stupidity

This thread is titled idiot and for you to make that coment the thread could easily be about you, I wouldn,t wish that on anyone.You need to wind your neck in and think before you post
 

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That was fine. I'd understand if the train was already moving, but that was perfectly safe. If she tripped, the train could have stopped easily.

Did she ever look to the left to see if there was another train coming, dont think so, and as for "the train could have stopped easily" have you ever had to throw a Desiro from full power to emergency brake, no well I have and although the brakes are very good they dont stop that quick!
 

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Aslef are asking drivers to slow down to 20mph for level crossings, thinking they're unsafe. Surely Aslef should consider what's making them unsafe, such as idiots like this. Network rail has been investing huge amounts of money in advertising campaigns, graphic ones I might add, telling you not to run the risk. I would suggest posting adverts at level crossings, just to be absolutley sure.
 

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If a driver is to suffer a horrid incident on a crossing, all I can say is that unless the person was unconscious, tied to the tracks or pushed, you really must not allow it to affect you.

Easier said than done, obviously. We all react in different ways and many don't know until put in that situation, but there are idiots out there and they cannot and MUST not ruin your life.
 

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Aslef are asking drivers to slow down to 20mph for level crossings, thinking they're unsafe. Surely Aslef should consider what's making them unsafe, such as idiots like this. Network rail has been investing huge amounts of money in advertising campaigns, graphic ones I might add, telling you not to run the risk. I would suggest posting adverts at level crossings, just to be absolutley sure.

And what good would that do?

The great Modern Malaise is the thought "it wouldn't happen to me, and even if it does it would be someone else's fault". You can post and screen all the warnings you like but it won't change people's behaviour one iota.

You are correct that the problem with level crossings is ignorance and abuse, but the solution remains elusive. Abdicating responsibility for safety to Nitwit Rail on the basis of a few TV "adverts" is borderline negligence. If I see people around a gated or open foot crossing I will always whistle up and cover the brake just in case. If they still step out in front of me I will knock off the power and go for a full service brake application, being ready to go for emergency if it looks like being particularly tight. You certainly don't carry on running at them at full bore smug in the knowledge that they're just being eejits.

Perhaps the Aslef position is a little extreme, but you have to ask the question who is taking the question of crossing safety seriously. Aslef are simply trying to protect their members from the trauma of a fatality.

If a driver is to suffer a horrid incident on a crossing, all I can say is that unless the person was unconscious, tied to the tracks or pushed, you really must not allow it to affect you.

Easier said than done, obviously. We all react in different ways and many don't know until put in that situation, but there are idiots out there and they cannot and MUST not ruin your life.

And there speaks the non-driver.

You bet it's easier said than done. I've already had one suicide die under my wheels, and you never get away from the fact that someone has just suffered a horrible and violent death underneath YOUR train. It doesn't matter whether this is the result of their own deliberate actions, ignorance or stupidity, it's a f***ing big shock and something that will live with you for the rest of your life. The vast majority of railway fatalities are suicides, but that really is cold comfort to the driver who has just had the misfortune to mow one down.

What affect it has on you in both the long and short term is down the type of person that you are and the support that you receive. Most drivers will come back to work, but some do not.

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