Maybe due to space limitations or reporting restrictions? It does seem bizzare that the offender got an absolute discharge
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idiot driver gets light penalty for disobeying crossing lights
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Maybe due to space limitations or reporting restrictions? It does seem bizzare that the offender got an absolute discharge
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If its what i am thinking of then what a radical idea!
Cant see it catching on though!
plymothian
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From comparisons with GPS I know my car over-reads approx 10% more than any speed so 33mph is 30mph, 44mph is 40mph, 55mph is 50mph etc. So sticking to the displayed 50mph in SPECs roadwork areas, gives me a 5mph margin.
ralphchadkirk
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I thought they were only triggered when a speed was displayed on the signs?
That was my belief too, but I always thought that they would eventually be on all the time. I assume they've also addressed the issue about only having one in operation (single lane) at any one time. Presumably something to do with multiple radar usage or something.
ralphchadkirk
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They're going to catch a lot of people doing 90+ in lane 3 then if they're on all the time!
I haven't driven the new A1-A10 section of the M25 yet (though will be doing it intensively in June, July and August), does anyone know what the score is with the enforcement cameras there (i.e what are they enforcing and when are they on!).
I'd love to know (as i reported earlier) why, with both my old banger cars, if I pass the 30 mph SID at 29 or indeed 30, no warning, and if i pass at 31, i get flashed (done purposely to test my speedo). All my previous cars, since they invented the SID, were the same -that accurate.
Reading some of the responses here, I thought perhaps I had mistakenly logged on to Autosport or some such site. The pathetic response to speed checking is, well, ... fill it in yourself. What is it with men and cars?
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I forgot to put this point. Are there stats on the ratio of men to women who go through LC warnings? I have read of women doing this.
Reading some of the responses here, I thought perhaps I had mistakenly logged on to Autosport or some such site. The pathetic response to speed checking is, well, ... fill it in yourself. What is it with men and cars?
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I forgot to put this point. Are there stats on the ratio of men to women who go through LC warnings? I have read of women doing this.
Llanigraham
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From my experience of manning a level crossing women are just as likely to do it.
I've certainly reported both men and women for ignoring the wig-wags.
I've certainly reported both men and women for ignoring the wig-wags.
They are enforcing the speed limit. Stick to that and you should be fine! Bizarre question.
Peter Mugridge
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Apparently up until recently they were never on at all, even when a variable limit was displayed*; now they're on 24/7.
*I often wondered why I usually seemed to be the only driver obeying the limits along there!
ralphchadkirk
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Could be enforcing lots of different things. Speed is only one thing enforcement cameras are used for.
Yeah that is true to be fair.
Geezertronic
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They should get a lot of morons talking on their phones then. Although yesterday was different as it appeared to be "leave your indicator on" day
I bet you didnt see any BMWs with their indicators on!
Err, hang on a minute...................I'm a BMW driver and my indicators are in full working order and used when necessary.............now taxi drivers........
90019
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I bet you didnt see any BMWs with their indicators on!
That's because most of the drivers didn't tick the option box for the indicator stalk.
I find its Audi drivers who have not bothered to order the indicator option.
Anyway, someone drove through the barrier at Newhaven Town the other day. just blasted through, not even stopping. Train was waiting to depart as well. Made a mess of the barriers.
As for the cameras on the M25. When they were not enforcing the VSL they used to be set quite high (mid 90's), but this has been dropped.
Err, hang on a minute...................I'm a BMW driver and my indicators are in full working order and used when necessary.............now taxi drivers........
Calm down dear, it's just a stereotype :P
...one which is born out by a lot of experience, mind!
Peter Mugridge
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About an hour ago.... fairly moderate to heavy traffic in Epsom High Street.... ambulance comes along with lights on, everyone dutifully gets out of the way.... one moron then gets through the traffic by following the ambulance... :roll:
Before anyone asks, I doubt it was an unmarked response vehicle behind the ambulance unless unmarked response vehicles now have alloy wheels and exhausts louder than motorbikes...
Before anyone asks, I doubt it was an unmarked response vehicle behind the ambulance unless unmarked response vehicles now have alloy wheels and exhausts louder than motorbikes...
I've seen that. I was somewhat miffed! (I think my words at the time were probably somewhat harsher!)
ralphchadkirk
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It's a popular thing to try and do, and is incredibly dangerous. Someone was recently convicted of dangerous driving for doing it (amongst other incidents that formed the offence).
This tends to inspire the ambulance driver to speed up if there's a speed camera ahead.
They get flashed, EOC deals with the letter.
Car behind gets flashed.
Peter Mugridge
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I did something similar once when I was being tailgated very closely by someone in a 30 with multiple cameras while I was right on the limit with an indicated 32; I knew there was yet another camera hidden just around a wide bend with a long straight after it so I slowed down and pulled over to the left just at that bend. As I expected, the tailgater shot past me and a few seconds later was lit up from behind by a double flash from the Licence Dalek...
natureboy
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We need rising bollards to stop this stupidity once and for all. Take the barriers away and install rising bollards similar to those which protect bus lanes, but these would of course need to be far stronger. Something that would stop an HGV is what's needed, and once the red lights start to flash they should rise with lightening force! I can guarantee that that would put and end to road vehicles crossing the railway when they shouldn't!
In this country, for full barriered crossings, we require proof that the barriers are down. This is done by detecting the position of the barriers electrically. This is in addition to a check that the crossing is clear, either by the Mark 1 eyeball or Mark 2 obstacle detection devices.
If a vehicle (or person) goes through the barriers, the detection is lost and the protecting signals automatically replace to danger, and stay at danger until the crossing is fixed. Your local friendly signalling technician will then come out and fix the barrier - usually by replacing the sacrificial shear bolts on the pedestal end of the barrier. This is about 30 mins work - I've done it myself.
Using the same principles with rising bollards, and like it or not people will still hit them, the bollards will have to be able to be fixed easily to avoid delaying trains for long. This is not usually compatible with the mechanism being underground. Alternatively the bollards have to be so sturdy that an lorry travelling at, say 20mph would not cause them to lose detection.
Final point - when rising bollards were tried in the US, the first set failed semi-permanently at the onset of winter as they froze up. Subsequently modified with heating. Which needed a new power supply.
All seems a lot of hassle compared to some decent cameras and a swathe of prosecutions.
You'd end up with vehicles trapped (else you won't prevent "snaking") and worse, you'd get long vehicles impaled and fouling the crossing
Option 1: We need to start installing those pop up slope barriers like the Russians video on page 3 of this thread.
Option 2: We need a watch tower with a couple of guards up there armed with machine guns!
I prefer option 2 but option 1 is more EU friendly.
Option 2: We need a watch tower with a couple of guards up there armed with machine guns!
I prefer option 2 but option 1 is more EU friendly.
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