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DarloRich

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Were India right or wrong to call Ian Bell back to the field?

Under the laws he was out but was the spirit of the game more important?

I think the right descision was made - but i doubt I would have called him back!

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I played cricket for several years at a very low level, and was captain for a year or two. I am certain that my team would not have wanted to take a wicket in that way. I am glad that India withdrew the appeal, and that even at the highest level there is still some regard for the playing matches in the right spirit.
 

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I played cricket for several years at a very low level, and was captain for a year or two. I am certain that my team would not have wanted to take a wicket in that way. I am glad that India withdrew the appeal, and that even at the highest level there is still some regard for the playing matches in the right spirit.


So have I ( northern League criket is a tough place) - I think they were right but it took a great deal of moral courage to make the decision to rescind the appeal.
 

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So have I ( northern League criket is a tough place) - I think they were right but it took a great deal of moral courage to make the decision to rescind the appeal.

Yes indeed, it was a brave, and somewhat surprising decision. I would take my hat of to MS Dhoni and the Indian team if I was wearing one!
 

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There have been incidents in the recent past where you could argue the same thing should have then as happened in this match.

In a one day game between England and NZ, a NZ batter collided and fell over the bowler and was subsequently run out. Paul Collingwood did not withdraw the appeal which technically is correct but is it in the spirit of the game?

Similarly, Murali was run out in a test match in NZ when going to congratulate his partner on reaching a century, again no withdrawn appeal but is it in the spirit of the game.

Also, if this had happened in India do you think Dhoni would have withdrawn the appeal? Did it happen as he felt pressurised with the match being played in England?
 

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I think it was 'the right thing to do' but Bell should really be paying attention to the umpire's signal. If a four isn't signalled, it isn't a four!
 

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I think it was 'the right thing to do' but Bell should really be paying attention to the umpire's signal. If a four isn't signalled, it isn't a four!

That is what the Lord Boycott said on the radio. He should not have presumed the session to be at an end until the umpire said so. Bell was very lucky
 
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It was very sporting of India.

I have one question regarding the actions of Ian Bell.

I thought the Umpires usually announced to the Players that it's time for Tea with each Umpire removing the bails at each end of the wicket, therefore was Ian Bell not paying attention having thought he heard the call for Tea?
 

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Bell was very silly, as he has admitted. I hope that the Indians would have done the same if they had been playing at home, but who knows. As for the other instances mentioned, the appeals should have been withdrawn too.
 

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In a one day game between England and NZ, a NZ batter collided and fell over the bowler and was subsequently run out. Paul Collingwood did not withdraw the appeal which technically is correct but is it in the spirit of the game?

I agree, there has been some poor behaviour in the past (bowling underarm?) but Collingwood did apologise afterwards and admit he made a mistake - and I like to think that a lesson was learned.

A similar thing happened again when Strauss was captain and Angelo Mathews was recalled following a collision; followed soon afterwards by Vettori recalling Collingwood who thought the over had finished.

I am sure Strauss would have done the same thing, although I am not so certain about other captains!
 

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Look at it this way would any Aussie have done the decent thing? Would they bugger....Bell was at fault, pure and simple, but fair play to India and M.S.Dhoni I say, credit where's credits due...
 

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I am sure Strauss would have done the same thing, although I am not so certain about other captains!

I think he would. I remember the Edgbaston 2009 Test when Aus named their side at the toss with Brad Haddin as keeper. Lo and behold between the toss and the first ball being bowled, Haddin went down with an injury and Strauss allowed the Aussies to bring Graham Manou into the side to make his debut. An excellent gesture I thought at the time.
 

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Most cricketers, including the aussies in my opinion, are excellent sportsmen in my opinion. Besides, India would still have lost without Bell's 159 or whatever it was :)
 

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All the above is technically correct. But were the Indians entirely blameless? It was clear to anyone that Bell was not attempting a run, but was going for tea; the umpire had started handing the bowler his jumper; the bowler was starting to walk off; the fielder on the boundary showed no urgency, and nor did the wicketkeeper; I would guess that most of the people on the field were of the same opinion as Bell. The umpire even saw fit to ask the Indians if they really were appealing. There seemed to be only two people on the field - Morgan and the chap what broke the stumps - who considered a run-out a possibility. Of course, when the appeal was made it was correct, and should have been given. But should they have appealed?
 

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But should they have appealed?

In my opinion, no. But I can understand why they did in the heat of the moment. I am glad that on reflection they decided to withdraw it. It looked pretty half hearted at first, and I cna imagien that when the umpire asked the question the only thing that went through the captain's head was to say yes and then have a chat and a think about it during tea.

He may have thought that if he said no, he could not change his mind, but if he said yes, he could withdraw it. I don't know what the actual position is within the laws of the game on that.
 

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In the spirit of cricket Stuart Broad should have handed over his man of the match award! :lol:

In the spirit of cricket, the man of the match adjudicators should have given it to MS Dhoni for withdrawing the appeal and not Stuart Broad in teh first instance.
 

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Most cricketers, including the aussies in my opinion, are excellent sportsmen in my opinion. Besides, India would still have lost without Bell's 159 or whatever it was :)

Wasn't it an Australian who dropped a catch on the ground in the Ashes a few years ago and tried to claim that he had a hold of it?
 
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