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networkrail1

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Hi all.

I just come across this video on youtube showing a 91, Mk4 and dvt set being pushed into Grantham station by a class 66, that has its own freight train behind it.

So not only is the 66 pushing it is also pulling.

I personally like the class 66 so this video is for the haters of the 66 to show that it can pull (and push in this case ) its own weight. :D <D

Enjoy:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ztB-AIWxs


All the best.

Simon.
 
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Hi all.

I just come across this video on youtube showing a 91, Mk4 and dvt set being pushed into Grantham station by a class 66, that has its own freight train behind it.

So not only is the 66 pushing it is also pulling.

I personally like the class 66 so this video is for the haters of the 66 to show that it can pull (and push in this case ) its own weight. :D <D

Enjoy:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ztB-AIWxs


All the best.

Simon.
I do recall late last year the up Night Riveria came to a stand due to poor rail head in cornwall and the DBS RHTT had to attatch to it and either drag or propel it back into Penzance
 
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When a load for a type of locomotive is published for a particular route there has to be a safe margin. If, for instance a 66 could just about lift 10,000t trailing over a particular gradient the permitted load wouldn't be 10,000t. It would probably be 6-7,000t. A bit of additional passenger train on a loco working a freight over a short level(ish) distance wouldn't be a problem.
 

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The trailing load for that 66 wouldn't be much more than 2,400 ton anyway, and the maximum speed for propelling in that situation is 40mph with auto brake in use on the leading loco, or 10mph with only the emergency plunger in use on the leading loco. I've done the latter with a 60 over the Sutton Park line in pitch dark.... loads of fun ;)
 

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They needed to 'evacuate' all passengers to begin with, because otherwise the 66 wouldnt have managed it!!!:lol:

In all seriousness though, the performance of a 66 is still exactly the same, and a fair few drivers have said they arent that brilliant at all. Good as a bog standard freight loco, but not much else.
 

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Bah! I remember 45020 pushing a burst 46xxx and 13 mark 1s into new street as well as its own 11 coaches. It had to make a standing start near to the bottom of Lickey and it was sweatin a bit by the time it got to Birmingham. No, I wasnt on it :(
 

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I'm struggling to locate that video (and I confess that I SHOULD know!). The road bridge in the distance puts it south of Grantham and looking south. The power grid crosses the line south of Grantham, so it could be looking south from the station or looking north from Stoke tunnel. And the line of OHLE between the main lines and the loop on the right is the wrong way round if we're looking at the Up Slow between Grantham and Highdyke. Maybe someone can help?
But the point is, its fine to remark how capable these machines are (and their crew!), but I'm wondering if its also had to push that set up either of the inclines into Grantham - from the north its easy up to Peascliffe Tunnel, but from the south, then its quite a struggle up Stoke Bank - (unless the failed set had already reached Stoke Tunnel).
Please locate this for me, its embarassing that I can't work it out myself.
 

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I'm struggling to locate that video (and I confess that I SHOULD know!). The road bridge in the distance puts it south of Grantham and looking south. The power grid crosses the line south of Grantham, so it could be looking south from the station or looking north from Stoke tunnel. And the line of OHLE between the main lines and the loop on the right is the wrong way round if we're looking at the Up Slow between Grantham and Highdyke. Maybe someone can help?
But the point is, its fine to remark how capable these machines are (and their crew!), but I'm wondering if its also had to push that set up either of the inclines into Grantham - from the north its easy up to Peascliffe Tunnel, but from the south, then its quite a struggle up Stoke Bank - (unless the failed set had already reached Stoke Tunnel).
Please locate this for me, its embarassing that I can't work it out myself.

The video is being taken from platform 2 at grantham on the down main, faceing stoke tunnel, the set is heading northwards toward newark.

If you ever have a brain freeze again just remember normal formation 91 country end dvt city end.

All the best.

Simon

 
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