HST Mk3 stock

[Masbroughlad]

Which sub class of Mk3 coaches did the HSTs use please?

I believe they had no buffers, but not sure if Mk3a, b, c etc?

Short thread but thanks in advance!

 

[43096]

Which sub class of Mk3 coaches did the HSTs use please?

I believe they had no buffers, but not sure if Mk3a, b, c etc?

Short thread but thanks in advance!

HST stock is Mark 3. The first tranche of LHCS (up to the sleepers) is Mark 3A and the LHCS vehicles after that (mainly the later FOs and BFOs) is Mark 3B.

 

[fgwrich]

HST stock is Mark 3. The first tranche of LHCS (up to the sleepers) is Mark 3A and the LHCS vehicles after that (mainly the later FOs and BFOs) is Mark 3B.

From an internal point of view, two ways to tell the difference is by looking at the Ceiling and Seats. The Mk3 A’s were built with the then standard lighting raft* with short tubes running laterally along the length of the coach, and IC70s with chunky fixed armrests in First Class.

The later built Mk3 B’s were built with an almost 158 / 442 style lighting raft running longitudinally along the length of the coach and IC80 seats (rubbish at reclining by the way!) with thinner exposed steel arm rests.

*when I say standard, it was certainly standard across the early BR Mk3 EMU fleet. Also, granted, the Mk3 B in my photo has the Greater Anglia modified set up. But it wasn’t changed that much compared to the standard class modifications.

 

[snowball]

From an internal point of view, the Mk3 A’s were built with the then standard lighting raft* with short tubes running horizontally along the length of the coach, and IC70s in First Class.

The Mk3 Bs were built with an almost 158 / 442 style lighting raft running vertically along the length of the coach and IC80 seats (rubbish at reclining by the way!).

Do you perhaps mean laterally and longitudinally? I'd say they were all horizontal.

 

[fgwrich]

Do you perhaps mean laterally and longitudinally? I'd say they were all horizontal.

That’s the word, cheers!

 

[43096]

The later built Mk3 B’s were built with an almost 158 / 442 style lighting raft running longitudinally along the length of the coach and IC80 seats (rubbish at reclining by the way!) with thinner exposed steel arm rests.

Ah yes, the reclining function of the IC80 wasn’t great. 11074 had at least some of its fixed in a sensible position when in preservation. GA ought to have done the same, but didn’!