HST coach disposals

[4REP]

What's the ratio of class 43 to Mark 3 coaches now?
Wikipedia needs a mending as the figure for class 43 is wrong concerning numbers in service area

 

[Jamesrob637]

What's the ratio of class 43 to Mark 3 coaches now?
Wikipedia needs a mending as the figure for class 43 is wrong concerning numbers in service area

The Mk3 Wikipedia page needs updating too as many more than 230 coaches have been scrapped now.
Only three or four 43s have actually been scrapped prior to now though.

 

[43096]

The Mk3 Wikipedia page needs updating too as many more than 230 coaches have been scrapped now.

By my reckoning, Newport alone have scrapped over 250.

Only three or four 43s have actually been scrapped prior to now though.

Just the three long-withdrawn accident victims from Southall, Ladbroke Grove and Ufton Nervet have been scrapped of the the production power car fleet.

 

[Pippy1505]

Yes lovely lovely through barnt green with 66737 on front. With x2 ex emr hst livery coaches. Ie the two spares at Neville Hill since December 2020. Attached to set NL51 as well. Ie 7 ex lner livery coaches. Such a shame going for scrap and NL51 couldn't stay to may 2021.

Its not NL51 (That is at Barrow Hill) these were spare ex LNER coaches

 

[DB]

By my reckoning, Newport alone have scrapped over 250.

Just the three long-withdrawn accident victims from Southall, Ladbroke Grove and Ufton Nervet have been scrapped of the the production power car fleet.

Wonder which will be the first of the current lot? 43300 seems a likely candidate.

 

[43096]

Wonder which will be the first of the current lot? 43300 seems a likely candidate.

That or 43140 would be the favourites to go next - depending how long all the various investigations and legal bits take with 140.

 

[Domh245]

That or 43140 would be the favourites to go next - depending how long all the various investigations and legal bits take with 140.

Surely some of the grottier stored power cars around the country would be in with a shout? Especially if 43300 is still busily providing spares for Neville Hill (which gives it until about June!)

 

[DB]

Surely some of the grottier stored power cars around the country would be in with a shout? Especially if 43300 is still busily providing spares for Neville Hill (which gives it until about June!)

43300 has been heavily stripped now.

Was thinking recently - will any of the GNER 'mallard' interior Mk3s survive? None so far preserved or in charter use and a fair few have gone for scrap already.

 

[43096]

Was thinking recently - will any of the GNER 'mallard' interior Mk3s survive? None so far preserved or in charter use and a fair few have gone for scrap already.

If you were after any of the Mallard Mark 3s, you'd take the current EMR ones - they have at least had some attention given to them. You wouldn't touch the rot boxes still at Ely.

 

[Phil Scott]

43300 has been heavily stripped now.

Was thinking recently - will any of the GNER 'mallard' interior Mk3s survive? None so far preserved or in charter use and a fair few have gone for scrap already.

What about 40732 st Shildon? That was formerly VTEC want it?

 

[fgwrich]

What about 40732 st Shildon? That was formerly VTEC want it?

IC70's in that one, albeit refurbished to VTEC standard.

 

[DB]

IC70's in that one, albeit refurbished to VTEC standard.

Yep, indeed.

The Mallard sets were EC61-63. EC64 and NL64 were transferred from EMT, and retained fairly original interiors, which Virgin left as they were apart from seat covers and carpet. Virgin (or it might have been LNER) swapped the buffets around so that formerly spare Mallard ones were in both sets normally and the IC70-seated buffets became spare - 40732 was one of these, the one which came with EC64 when transferred.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 22/03

Realtime Trains - 5L45 0428 Doncaster West Yard to Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf
Realtime Trains - 5Q45 0832 Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf to Newport Docks (Sims) Gbrf
Realtime Trains - 5Q46 1656 Newport Docks (Sims) Gbrf to Eastleigh East Yard

 

[cole_peter5@]

Hi Guys ----- Could anyone let me what coaches where on the 5Q45 Ely - Newport and where there any coaches in the 5Q46 Newport - Eastleigh, or was just a locomotive movement. Thanks Peter

 

[3973EXL]

Hi Guys ----- Could anyone let me what coaches where on the 5Q45 Ely - Newport and where there any coaches in the 5Q46 Newport - Eastleigh, or was just a locomotive movement. Thanks Peter

They haven't run yet, Monday. 5L45 & 5Q46 conveys Barriers.

 

[cole_peter5@]

Thanks for the up date much applicated ----- Peter.

 

[spotify95]

Hi Guys ----- Could anyone let me what coaches where on the 5Q45 Ely - Newport and where there any coaches in the 5Q46 Newport - Eastleigh, or was just a locomotive movement. Thanks Peter

Newport to Eastleigh will be for the barrier coaches, likewise for the other one. The interesting move is Ely Sidings to Newport SIMs where some MK3s will be making their last journey.

 

[fgwrich]

STP 22/03

Realtime Trains - 5L45 0428 Doncaster West Yard to Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf
Realtime Trains - 5Q45 0832 Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf to Newport Docks (Sims) Gbrf
Realtime Trains - 5Q46 1656 Newport Docks (Sims) Gbrf to Eastleigh East Yard

Inbound working from Doncaster cancelled, so unlikely to run today.

 

[73128]

Inbound working from Doncaster cancelled, so unlikely to run today.

and it's recently been cancelled as you expected. Wonder which day will it be rescheduled to instead?

 

[warwickshire]

and it's recently been cancelled as you expected. Wonder which day will it be rescheduled to instead?

Maybe it wasn't intended to run a schedule error maybe.
Perhaps the coaches was the ones saved from scrap last Monday the 15th march 2021. To Appleby frodingham. Maybe?.

 

[fgwrich]

It looks like the next vehicles to go will be the former ScotRail "Classic" set vehicles stored in Dundee Yard. 57305 + Barriers currently on their way up there, will leave either tomorrow or Wednesday with potentially 5 or 6 vehicles (no path on RTT yet).
HA31 - 41126/42344/42261/44030
HA32 - 46010/42069/42118/44023

 

[amwells]

Hi @fgwrich could you please let us know where to look for the route? I’d be very interested if these pass through the Edinburgh area

 

[matt]

Hi @fgwrich could you please let us know where to look for the route? I’d be very interested if these pass through the Edinburgh area

The location to look for will be Dundee C.S. on a site such as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/

 

[DB]

It looks like the next vehicles to go will be the former ScotRail "Classic" set vehicles stored in Dundee Yard. 57305 + Barriers currently on their way up there, will leave either tomorrow or Wednesday with potentially 5 or 6 vehicles (no path on RTT yet).
HA31 - 41126/42344/42261/44030
HA32 - 46010/42069/42118/44023

Do you know which scrapyard it will be?

 

[fgwrich]

Do you know which scrapyard it will be?

No idea I’m afraid, I'd like to hope it would be Booths but it wouldn't surprise me if it was Newport, as always

The location to look for will be Dundee C.S. on a site such as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/

Thanks for posting that Matt! I should have posted the RTT link earlier but I was on my phone.

 

[Pete_uk]

Have any of the carriages involved in any major incidents been kept in service or are they all for the big depot in the sky?

 

[scotraildriver]

Have any of the carriages involved in any major incidents been kept in service or are they all for the big depot in the sky?

42072 was involved in the Southall crash and has been refurbished and is in use with Scotrail.

 

[Pete_uk]

Ok thanks

 

[Davester50]

The 1984 Tyne Yard derailment set was all back up and running.

 

[43096]

The 1984 Tyne Yard derailment set was all back up and running.

No production HST vehicles were written off until Southall in 1997.