The reason for it being in the HSR is because I asked the question as to whether car Automation would negatively impact on HS2 (as some think, mostly those opposed to HS2) or whether it wouldn't. With the latter it could even improve the case for HS2 as less and less people owned their own cars and automated cars potentially had limited range.
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HS2 and car automation
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The reason for it being in the HSR is because I asked the question as to whether car Automation would negatively impact on HS2 (as some think, mostly those opposed to HS2) or whether it wouldn't. With the latter it could even improve the case for HS2 as less and less people owned their own cars and automated cars potentially had limited range.
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It's still a decade or more before that becomes an issue.
edwin_m
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This thread is discussing HS2 and autonomous vehicles both of which are likely to be at least a decade in the future anyway, so it's appropriate to consider other developments that might happen in a similar timescale.
If autonomous cars are introduced and given full license to drive the car with no required input or supervision from a human driver except a postcode at the start then i would speculate it causes a small decrease in passengers on hs2 and trains generally.
Why - if the driver is not required to supervise the driving then s/he are now essentially the same as a passenger in a train coach in so far as they can do what the hell they like with their time. If you can take a car and work or relax just like on a train this depletes one of the more important reasons people choose to take the train. Moreover while you may not get a toilet you are guaranteed a seat and are in complete control of if someone is sitting next to you or talking too loudly opposite.
I am skeptical that we will transition to fully automatic unsupervised automation in the next 20 year at s minimum however, the switchover barrier is too high, notwithstanding any tech issues
Why - if the driver is not required to supervise the driving then s/he are now essentially the same as a passenger in a train coach in so far as they can do what the hell they like with their time. If you can take a car and work or relax just like on a train this depletes one of the more important reasons people choose to take the train. Moreover while you may not get a toilet you are guaranteed a seat and are in complete control of if someone is sitting next to you or talking too loudly opposite.
I am skeptical that we will transition to fully automatic unsupervised automation in the next 20 year at s minimum however, the switchover barrier is too high, notwithstanding any tech issues
Bletchleyite
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But single-person cars are not to be encouraged because they waste energy moving boxes with one person in. So I can't see motoring taxes, even for automatic motoring, reducing an awful lot.
NotATrainspott
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A self-driving car will also still be limited to today's road speeds. In built-up areas, full autonomy will allow much more efficient use of road space, but I see that being used to advantage pedestrians and public transport rather than to speed up private driverless vehicles. If you're in central London and headed for central Birmingham then there's not much competition. If you're headed further out than that, then autonomous vehicles will be able to chauffeur you to and from the stations at either end of your HS2 journey.
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