How to find out if a train will be dry (with specific example)?

[Egg Centric]

Will 1N97/2130 KGX - Newcastle on Saturday be dry? For context for those unaware Sunderland are at Wembley for the play offs (I'm not watching them albeit if tickets somehow got released at last minute on general sale I might, I'm just coincidentally using it) and it's the last train of the day north of York. I would expect most fans to spend the night celebrating our inevitable victory in Trafalgar Square but there'll surely be some heading north on it.

There's nothing on the LNER website currently saying it'll be dry, but I'd like to know for sure.

 

[yorksrob]

I've seen them put up white boards at Leeds station saying that "so and so train will be dry on blank" in the days proceeding an event before.

Can't remember the last time though.

 

[Egg Centric]

There is now a travel alert about the service saying it's going to be extra busy, but nothing stating it'll be a dry train. I'm not sure if I can read anything into that though. One thing I hadn't realised, not being familiar with the late night Saturday service, is that it is effectively a footex put on specially for the final in the first place. I wonder if I'll be super lucky and it's a 225...

 

[Egg Centric]

Update: I got in touch with LNER and the train is not "currently" dry... whatever that means

 

[miami]

Most trains are dry in my experience. I did have a plane start raining on me once though - air conditioning I think rather than a leaking bag in the overhead compartment.

 

[Egg Centric]

Most trains are dry in my experience. I did have a plane start raining on me once though - air conditioning I think rather than a leaking bag in the overhead compartment.

I can assure you the Manx Electric Railway isn't dry in that sense - happy memories of being absolutely drenched

 

[Quincy]

What is meant by dry in this context? I’m just imagining a wet train,
Wouldn’t exactly have the most happy customers

 

[800Travel]

What is meant by dry in this context? I’m just imagining a wet train,
Wouldn’t exactly have the most happy customers

No alcohol permitted onboard or served onboard

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Sometimes "Dry" trains are shown as such in the public timetable. The 1909, 2000, 2106 and 2149 Northern departures from Carlisle to Whitehaven on Saturdays are all shown as "Dry" (which in the timetable is defined as Alcohol in opened or unopened containers not permitted. Travel may also be refused if you are under the influence). There are other "Dry" trains as well. See link below.

Dry Trains

Northern | Buy Cheap Train Tickets and Check Train Times

www.northernrailway.co.uk

Extract...

If you're on a ‘dry train,’ our staff will ask you not to drink or hide any booze during your journey. If you’re visibly drunk or try to sneak alcohol on board, you won’t be allowed to travel and could face prosecution under railway byelaws.

If you’ve got alcohol with you before you board these services, you’ll need to dispose of it before the barriers, please. No exceptions here – you won’t be able to travel with it.

 

[Quincy]

No alcohol permitted onboard or served onboard

Ah okay, makes sense now.

 

[transportphoto]

There could be a legal argument surrounding interpretation of the word “reasonable”. Dry trains are enforceable through the Railway Bylaws:

where reasonable notice is, or has been, given prohibiting intoxicating liquor on any train service, no person shall have any intoxicating liquor with him on it, or attempt to enter such a train with intoxicating liquor with him

Railway byelaws

Explains what the railway byelaws are, why they have been made and how they can be enforced and interpreted.

www.gov.uk

I’m guessing what is reasonable is left intentionally vague, and I doubt it has ever been challenged.