How much do trains cost to buy?

[33056]

Stadler in Switzerland will knock you up a nice 3 car metre gauge dual voltage EMU for around 10 million Swiss Francs (about £6,250,000 at current exchange rates)

Info can be found here

 

[route:oxford]

Chiltern own it - no ROSCO involved. The same applies to 121034 which is currently being refurbished for main line use. They also own 960014.

Will it be for passenger use?

 

[73110]

The new FCC 377's (southern for the pedants) cost a little over 4 million new to buy, not to build, to buy....

 

[route:oxford]

Stadler in Switzerland will knock you up a nice 3 car metre gauge dual voltage EMU for around 10 million Swiss Francs (about £6,250,000 at current exchange rates)

Info can be found here

These look interesting

http://www.stadlerrail.com/en/vehicles/gtw/

A good replacement for the Pacer?

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Nowt wrong with asking the question. But its interesting to read posts where costs after the initial construction cost have been considered.
I've got some more "costs of ownership" to add:
Insurance (against how many risks - conveying passengers?)
Storeage
Finance repayments
Admin (administering the leasing payments, the (crippling) cost of running the office payroll, pensions, rent, rates, heating, telecoms etc. All aiming to manage the leasing and operation of the train)
Marketing (to advertise and promote the stock you have available)
Oh, and did I mention Insurance?

Frankly, I think if the question was to be put in a realistic commercial context, then the actual cost of manufacture becomes irrelevant. If you set up a leasing company (which all the big banks have done) then you can pay for the manufacturing of almost any product, and simply impose terms on the lessor to recoup the cost - mainly
a) to require maintenance & insurance, and
b) monthly payments.

That nicely leaves the lessor to find business for the train and to manage its marketing, management, overheads, maintenenace and operating costs (somone added "uniforms").
And all the time the train is in service - it actually belongs to the leasing company. So we're back to where we are now . . .

 

[jon0844]

The new FCC 377's (southern for the pedants) cost a little over 4 million new to buy, not to build, to buy....

And Bombardier seem to then allocate about £250 for materials.

Reading about the recent problems with the CIS, I really do despair. How the hell can a train built in 2009 have problems with information systems that have been in use for years?

What next? The carpet is going to break down?!

 

[Vulcan]

err... I tried to make a joke but then realised it made no sence. And I don't know how to delete a post. So ignore this.

 

[33056]

These look interesting

http://www.stadlerrail.com/en/vehicles/gtw/

A good replacement for the Pacer?

The diesel version is one of the better "new generation" DMUs in Europe IMO, the electric ones are also OK. The idea of putting the diesel engine between the passenger compartments makes for a nice quiet ride and they have decent sized windows as well; it is possible to walk through the "power module" as well, though I am not sure if this would be possible if they were ever to produce a version to fit the UK loading gauge.

 

[route:oxford]

The diesel version is one of the better "new generation" DMUs in Europe IMO, the electric ones are also OK. The idea of putting the diesel engine between the passenger compartments makes for a nice quiet ride and they have decent sized windows as well; it is possible to walk through the "power module" as well, though I am not sure if this would be possible if they were ever to produce a version to fit the UK loading gauge.

Will all depend on how much redundant space there is, if any, in the powermodule.

Comparing it to a Mk4 carriage, it would have to lose 22cm in width and 25cm in height.

The Swiss are traditionally very good at putting intricate mechanics into small spaces though.