How many trains running a day that aren't fixed formation multiple units?

[millemille]

I'm trying to understand and quantify an operational risk profile in the UK and in order to do so I need to compare the estimated number of fixed formation multiple unit trains in service (on NR rails) on any given week day with the number of trains that aren't fixed formation multiple units: so TOC & FOC loco hauled passenger and freight, light engine, OTM, OTP (in possessions) and charter operations.

I come from a TOC background so can relatively easily and accurately estimate the number of fixed formation multiple units & loco hauled passenger stock in service on any week day and I've also worked in plant, so have an idea on OTM & OTP.

But I've got no idea how many freight and light engine trains runs on any given week day (00.01 to 23.59 as a day for this exercise) across the UK.

Anyone got any numbers from a reliable source or experience, or can point me in the direction of a source?

TIA

 

[HamworthyGoods]

I'm trying to understand and quantify an operational risk profile in the UK and in order to do so I need to compare the estimated number of fixed formation multiple unit trains in service (on NR rails) on any given week day with the number of trains that aren't fixed formation multiple units: so TOC & FOC loco hauled passenger and freight, light engine, OTM, OTP (in possessions) and charter operations.

I come from a TOC background so can relatively easily and accurately estimate the number of fixed formation multiple units & loco hauled passenger stock in service on any week day and I've also worked in plant, so have an idea on OTM & OTP.

But I've got no idea how many freight and light engine trains runs on any given week day (00.01 to 23.59 as a day for this exercise) across the UK.

Anyone got any numbers from a reliable source or experience, or can point me in the direction of a source?

TIA

It depends on your definition of multiple unit trains. For example the TPE mk5s are fixed formation unpowered multiple units where it isn’t possible to knock a coach out.

You ask for UK and they say on Network Rail’s Rails so do you just mean GB not UK as this is a bit ambiguous!

 

[30907]

It depends on your definition of multiple unit trains. For example the TPE mk5s are fixed formation unpowered multiple units where it isn’t possible to knock a coach out.

I take it that the OP is using "multiple unit" to cover all fixed formation coaching stock trains.

 

[Surreytraveller]

You also have multiple units which split and join with other multiple units in service. Does that count as one train or three?

 

[AngusH]

I'm trying to understand and quantify an operational risk profile in the UK and in order to do so I need to compare the estimated number of fixed formation multiple unit trains in service (on NR rails) on any given week day with the number of trains that aren't fixed formation multiple units: so TOC & FOC loco hauled passenger and freight, light engine, OTM, OTP (in possessions) and charter operations.

I come from a TOC background so can relatively easily and accurately estimate the number of fixed formation multiple units & loco hauled passenger stock in service on any week day and I've also worked in plant, so have an idea on OTM & OTP.

But I've got no idea how many freight and light engine trains runs on any given week day (00.01 to 23.59 as a day for this exercise) across the UK.

Anyone got any numbers from a reliable source or experience, or can point me in the direction of a source?

TIA

(in case no one with a better answer turns up)

The data should be available by querying the TRUST system
which contains (almost) all train movements.
It should contain all the data you need for a particular day

I'm not sure which front end interface can be used for this though.
Realtime trains doesn't AFAIK support statistical querying.


The very short notice/unscheduled stuff (vstp) can be viewed by operator here:

Live Train Times | Rail Record

Live Train Times - Passenger and freight train times for the UK rail network - Rail Record

www.rail-record.co.uk

which may pick up many of the light engine moves