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So i had a nice drive up the A52 to Boston to pick up a mate from HMP North Sea Camp, he was sent down for growing some plants.

Anyway pull up in the car park, as its a Cat D Open Prison , he does charity work at a shop in Boston.

You should see the prison fleet to take the lads to work.

1x 60plate 17 seater transit
2x 59 plate 17 seater transits
1x 10 plate 9 seater Citreon dispatch
1x 10 plate ford galaxy titanium

all driven like Jenson Button Mclaren by cons.

It must be the most modern fleet going , all payed for by the tax payer.
He told me that the prison service have hangers of new transit and galaxy's parked up at there warehouse
 
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Years ago when I did visiting inmates at Ford, near Arundel, amongst other nicks, they only drove tractors though the trucks that used to pick-up Ford-grown plants were I think driven by inmates. There was also a prison driving school scheme. All minibuses were driven by officers. Inmates were however allowed bikes.
 
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No way would any inmate use a tractor to go to get some cigarettes. :lol:
After all, in a rural area no-one drives a tractor on the road and wears denims. :D

That said I gather that Ford inmates now have to wear bright green overalls to make them stand out.
 
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Sounds quite different then to how the Scottish Prison Service run things- they have a contract for vehicles (all vehicles, including liveried and secure ones) with a leasing firm. The contract is structured such that the leasing firm is reponsible for all maintainence and have to ensure that the rightnumber of vehicles are always available- breakdowns have to immediatly replaced.

More expensive than a straightforward lease arrangement, but cheaper than maintaining an over-sized pool of their own vehicles.

OOne thing- are you that even Cat D prisoners are allowed to drive the vehicles? Seems unlikely to me.
 
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The drivers are payed £20pw for a 5 day week.
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Are you sure? That works out at £80 a month-£960 per year. Surely you mean they get £20 a day. Nobody could survive on £960 per annum.
 
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£20 a week! That's amazing! It used to be £5 per week I was told (at the time) in the mid-1990s. At Ford there were guys who made striped prison shirts who could be paid by results and earn in those days £45 per week. Ford was renowned for its workshop making dummies for resuscitating training. Don't forget that the Canteen is just about all that you could spend your wages on. Some inmates would send money home though.

I have been into several prisons and all had HMP-owned vehicles.

Two incidents come to mind that might be of interest: one was a minibus that took a load of guys from Ford out to clear the Chichester Canal which meant cruising up and down on a boat in the sunshine! The second one was when asylum-seekers at HMP Haslar went on strike. 12 Cat Ds used to look after them and they were assisted by failked asylum-seekers awaiting deportation. The Prison Service bused-in a squadron of guys from Ford each day to do cleaning work.
 
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Really ? you only get 14 years for killing someone.
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You can get life for drugs, it all depends on what drugs you are dealing, if you have previous and your background. If the police get you for messing around with Class A they'll throw you in a cell and burn the key!
 
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14 years? Usually at least 15 if it's murder, before consideration of parole and that in turnj requires a few years in Cat D prison. Manslaughter can involve a life sentence but usually a fixed-term which could be under 14 years.
 
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People also confuse sentences for which you can get parole (release on licence) at 50% of term with life sentences, where the minimum tarrif is a hard and fast minimum and you're never truly free.
 
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MCATEER was the main player north of the border for a heroin smuggling plot centred on Merseyside.

Operation Kingsway would lead to 10 people being jailed.

Both McAteer and Warren Selkirk were also named on the drug smuggling indictment but after the murder it was decided to try the Scot on the murder charge alone.

When the Kingsway case opened at Liverpool crown court, the jury heard that vast amounts of drugs were brought by couriers to be distributed from Merseyside. An order banned any reporting of the sentences until the end of McAteer's trial.

Paul Lowe, 33, of Smithdown Lane, Wavertree, received 24 years while Anthony Parkinson, 36, of Kepler Street, Seaforth, was given 21 years. Martin Neary, 53, of Glendale Close, Dingle, and Anthony Ellis, 28, of Upper Parliament Street got 16 years each.

Mark Davey, 34, of New Lane, Bradford, and Jason Giles Smith received 16 years while Stephen Smith and Brian Hillhands, 23, of Garden Road, Bradford, got 11 years.

Daniel English got 9 years while George Bell Smith, of Meldrum Street, Glasgow, 6 years Karl Frederick, 51, of Queensbury Ave, Bromborough, is to be sentenced.

this is about paul lowe in the liverpool echo.
He was one of the members of liverpools firm and made upto £6m
 
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jopsuk said:
Sounds quite different then to how the Scottish Prison Service run things- they have a contract for vehicles (all vehicles, including liveried and secure ones) with a leasing firm. The contract is structured such that the leasing firm is reponsible for all maintainence and have to ensure that the rightnumber of vehicles are always available- breakdowns have to immediatly replaced.

More expensive than a straightforward lease arrangement, but cheaper than maintaining an over-sized pool of their own vehicles.

OOne thing- are you that even Cat D prisoners are allowed to drive the vehicles? Seems unlikely to me.
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Back in the days when the Scottish Prison Service used converted single deckers with the odd window on it, it was a regular occurrence late in the afternoon to see the prison bus go between the Glasgow city centre courts and HMP Barlinnie.
The prisoners had a habit of shouting abuse out of the said small window at female passersby standing at bus stops.
I once saw a female try to take out the prison bus window with a high heel shoe after getting verbal from a felon.
The bus was stuck in traffic.
You could hear the screams and whoops of laughter from inside the bus.
The girl was only defending her honour as a passing police car led her away.
I tried not to laugh.

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