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Hendon station before the M1 was built

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I am fascianted to see details (pictures or otherwise) of Hendon station, before it was rebuilt in (presumably) the 70s with the M1 J1 extension.
I've scraped the internet but not found much.
 
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"St Pancras to St Albans" by Goslin and Conner (Middleton Press 2002) has several photos from the 'Lens of Sutton' collection, so that may be worth looking for.
 

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The current station was build as part of the Midland Suburban Electrification programme that began in the late 1970s (on which I worked for a short time). It was one of three complete rebuilds, the others being Bedford Midland and Radlett. Hendon was by far the most modest.

I really ought to remember what was there before, but can't. The M1 was already open by then and I can only assume that there was some sort of temporary/interim arrangement.

There was a stone terminal squeezed in between the Up Slow and M1 in those days.
 

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Were there ever platforms on the lines that lead to Dudding Hill?
 

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Were there ever platforms on the lines that lead to Dudding Hill?
Yes - at the time the Slow lines opened in 1890 the Goods lines were equipped with platforms, but they were not regularly used. None of my sources says when they were formally taken out of use.
 

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Yes - at the time the Slow lines opened in 1890 the Goods lines were equipped with platforms, but they were not regularly used. None of my sources says when they were formally taken out of use.
As I remember you get get across from the Fasts to the Goods at Welsh Harp which would enable trains using the fast line platforms to reach Brent Curve.
 

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The London Railway Atlas, 4th Edition (Brown, Ian Allan, 2015) shows a platform (still) between the Down Fast and Up Hendon, but nothing alongside the Down Hendon. However, there is no indication whether there is any platform face on the Up Hendon. The signalling diagram (date unknown) indicates that there was a gap between the fast and Hendon lines, and the platform did not fill this. From the various bits, it looks as though it was not possible to reach the Dudding Hill line from south of Welsh Harp.
 

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The London Railway Atlas, 4th Edition (Brown, Ian Allan, 2015) shows a platform (still) between the Down Fast and Up Hendon, but nothing alongside the Down Hendon. However, there is no indication whether there is any platform face on the Up Hendon. The signalling diagram (date unknown) indicates that there was a gap between the fast and Hendon lines, and the platform did not fill this. From the various bits, it looks as though it was not possible to reach the Dudding Hill line from south of Welsh Harp.
Looking at Google satellite images, it looks as though the platforms on the goods (Hendon) lines have been sloped off - a fence along the 'back' of the Down Fast platform keeps people away from the Up goods. The Station Road bridge parapet is too high for a clear view in 'Streetview'.
Re Welsh Harp Junction, the 1927 diagram in Gough's "The Midland Railway - A Chronology" (Railway and Canal Historical Society, 1989) shows that trains on the up fast line could access the up goods line and so get to the Brent curve - and down goods line trains could cross to the down fast. But as you say, further south there was no direct connection; only shunt moves would allow access from the Up lines to the goods lines to get to the Brent curve.
 

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The London Railway Atlas, 4th Edition (Brown, Ian Allan, 2015) shows a platform (still) between the Down Fast and Up Hendon, but nothing alongside the Down Hendon. However, there is no indication whether there is any platform face on the Up Hendon. The signalling diagram (date unknown) indicates that there was a gap between the fast and Hendon lines, and the platform did not fill this. From the various bits, it looks as though it was not possible to reach the Dudding Hill line from south of Welsh Harp.
IIRC, nowadays there is an old platform on the Down Hendon, which is clearly visible as you approach the station from the north. As for the Up Hendon, you can't see.
 
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